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Title: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Scunner on June 14, 2014, 14:36:23 PM
It is amazing how many times I hear of people bringing out bacon/duty free/teabags etc for their favourite bar or restaurant only for it to cause problems - often when the bar find reasons to forget to pay for it or (surprisingly often) how they pay for it (to the penny, never kkeep that extra 2 lira for your trouble) then charge the person who brought it out for the drink they had when they delivered it!

Do you have any such tales to share?

I generally say no these days, whatever I bring these days is for gifts that I certainly don't want paying for. One exception is if Salih at Kings Garden needs anything - generally Archers or Southern Comfort - straight in, hand it over, none of this I'll knock it off your bill etc, straight to the till, money handed over. with due thanks I can't be doing with all the palaver involved in helping someone get something super cheap.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: bigfoot on June 14, 2014, 15:09:18 PM
Yup been there got the T shirt. Its got to the point where i wont post anywhere when we are coming over again, because if i do a certain bar will be putting in an order for drink and foodstuff.  As you said method of payment always seems to weigh a lot heavier in favour of the recipient ie X amount of effes for X amount of spirits my count has never been the same as theirs, they always say you have had your quota and i reckon i havent.  So without keeping a book which i am loath to do as i think it makes me look like a miser  lol i now have to resort to ducking and diving. On the other hand there is a another bar in Calis where i always give free the odd bottle of spirits plus any bottles of spirits we have left after our hols. this bar bends over backwards for us and treats us more like family than customers.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: KKOB on June 14, 2014, 15:36:46 PM
We've never brought anything over for bars and restaurants. Always refused and told them  it's illegal. Anything we bring over is gifts for friends or for Animal Aid to sell or raffle.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: pops on June 14, 2014, 17:26:01 PM
We have used the same apartments in Icmeler for a number of years and apart from our first visit we always took 2ltrs of Bacardi over for the owner. 2 years ago we were on holiday there with my sister-in-law and after we had parted with our gift, we had a drink and were charged, exactly as we expected. It was a gift, not a sweetener. My sister-in-law was outraged. She bought nothing else at the apartments for the whole 2 weeks. We, on the other hand, bought all of our essentials at the apartments. (milk, water, toilet rolls, and we used the bar every day)
My wife and I were treated somewhat differently to my sister-in-law for the whole two weeks. Not rocket science. It was £20.00 well spent.
We still return......My sister-in-law does not.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on June 14, 2014, 17:55:30 PM
We have also been asked, did it once and did not get paid, so will not do it anymore.  One thing that is often asked is to be friends on Facebook, so once you say on F.B. your are going over, it gives the opportunity for people to message you and ask you to bring some booze.
What baffles us is why everyone always wants Jack Daniels....Now a good Scottish Single Malt I can understand, but Jack Daniels. :o :o :-X
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Scunner on June 14, 2014, 18:55:36 PM
You may not be aware of the price of a bottle of Jack Daniels in Turkey then :o

I usually say someone has already been promised the duty free - me!!! At 15 TL a shot and over 30 shots (conservative estimate) in a litre equalling 450 TL, you'd think making 128 quid a bottle might make them want to pay you the £15 quid for it, and maybe give you a free one. But no.

Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: bewva on June 14, 2014, 19:11:53 PM
The last few times I have always been paid for it and straight away as we walk into the bar. The waiter sometimes even calls to pick it up if we tell him we have some for them so we are not dragging it round on the dolmus etc. Then its first round of drinks on them.
I brought some out for one place and dragged it up to his hotel, ordered 2 beers and had to ask about 4 times for the cash when we were leaving. Then he gave me the bill for the 2 beers. I don't even go in there anymore.
Like bigfoot we try to keep it quiet now to avoid the question but happily take it over for friends that live there.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on June 14, 2014, 19:14:29 PM
You may not be aware of the price of a bottle of Jack Daniels in Turkey then :o

I usually say someone has already been promised the duty free - me!!! At 15 TL a shot and over 30 shots (conservative estimate) in a litre equalling 450 TL, you'd think making 128 quid a bottle might make them want to pay you the £15 quid for it, and maybe give you a free one. But no.



Yes we checked the price, but a good bottle of malt can be more...
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: KKOB on June 14, 2014, 19:27:21 PM
Yep, but only you lar-dee-dar Royals can afford malt whiskey.

The plebs drink JD.  ;)
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on June 14, 2014, 20:43:24 PM
No we don't drink Malt Whiskey... That is Irish or American  we drink Malt Whisky which is Scottish. 
I will further educate you. J.D. is more expensive that a lot of Malts.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: KKOB on June 14, 2014, 21:11:19 PM
Yes we checked the price, but a good bottle of malt can be more...

Come on. Make yer mind up ! It's either cheaper than JD or it's more expensive. Truth is, you don't really know the price of a nip, do ya?
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on June 14, 2014, 21:25:25 PM
No, I said a good  bottle of Malt can be more,  So 12, 18 or 25 years old.  A 10 year old could be cheaper.
We have a lot of malts as Phil is a malt fan.  I am very familiar with the prices. 
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: makemwonder on June 14, 2014, 21:32:20 PM
On our very 1st visit to stay with friends the husband phoned us at the airport and asked us to bring 10 bottles of assorted spirits (way back in the days you were allowed this amount) which we got and had to sit with them at our feet which made for an uncomfortable flight but worst of all I had to put the cost of this on my credit card so as not use up my spending money, next day was spent with him touring round the various bars dropping it off, some paid up some said later but all charged us for the drinks we had in their bar knowing we were the people that had gone to all the bother of bringing it over we didn't even get a thank you and we never did get all of the money but still had the card to pay off when I got home needless to say we never did it again lesson learned
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: atinabay on June 15, 2014, 03:04:19 AM
We were asked by a regular restaurant of ours (at least three times a week) to bring some bottles.   Not a problem. We had become quite  friendly with them and it  wasn't putting us out much........... We buy with sterling on the plane and they had agreed to pay lire at the current rate of exchange.   So the first time it came to 94tl... He handed me 90tl.  Thinking he had misunderstood, I didn't press it so I left it at that.   Later that year , we're back and with more bottles. This time it came to 186tl.  I also gave him a receipt with it and wrote down the figures for him.............He hands me 180tl.    Okay, its not right, but we adopted the attitude of it being 'typical and somewhat endearing'.   .  The following year (last year) we bring two bottles and it came to 63tl....... He hands me 60tl......... Okay. So 3 or 4 lire is not a fortune but its the principle.   I have carried heavy bottles in my hand luggage. Carried it to him from the apartment.  Now don't get me wrong.  I'm not expecting any elaborate welcoming party, or even a free drink.  Its a simple gesture of friendship that requires only a thanks. But to round it down for me to loose 4tl and then pay him 12tl for a glass back?.... Hmm. Its the principle of it. I do a favor, it shouldn't cost me.  If it was an individual, I would let it go. But as they resell it for profit, to me its an altogether different ball game.    This year we did not bring bottles and he got the sale of 4 coffees from us only for the four weeks. (only because we had to pass by the restaurant twice)   We will be  back later this year and shall avoid them again............. Am I being too harsh or petty?
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: charlste on June 15, 2014, 06:17:26 AM
I brought out 2 bottles of spirits for someone and it was 2 for £22.I was asked if i wanted english or turkish so i said english.
2 weeks later i asked for the money and was given a 20 pound note.he didnt have the £2 so i said it doesnt matter.
£2 in their pocket but if i had drinks and said i am £2 or 7 lira short would they have let me get away with that.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Stargazer on June 15, 2014, 12:08:49 PM
We bring teabags for a bar in Hisaronu and to this day I have never been charged for tea or coffee. Also I often get asked to bring things for a bar in Calis and she always pays either up front or as soon as she gets the goods. Maybe we are just lucky.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Scunner on June 15, 2014, 12:11:25 PM

 I do a favor, it shouldn't cost me. 


That's it, in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: micky mouse on June 15, 2014, 13:51:52 PM
We used to always bring bacon,gin, scotch,etc out for several bars never got a freebee and when ordering an import gin and tonic had to pay top dollar for it that done me in,so i never take anything out for anyone now with the exception of a friend that eyes my place in turkey who are always thankful
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Karennina on June 15, 2014, 14:09:03 PM
We don't do it have done it twice and in fairness was paid straight away from said bar but felt really guilty accepting the money as I had just been and changed the last of my sterling up, on opening my purse to get some change out it was said look at all that money so have not done it since as I felt really uncomfortable I too have sat and worked out just how much the bar owners stand to make in profit at the prices they charge per measure...
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: mary62 on June 15, 2014, 14:12:03 PM
I made the mistake of asking my neighbour if she wanted anything bringing back from the U.K. She produced a shopping list, which I brought back for her (with me paying extra baggage). When she was going back to the U.K I asked her to bring me back 1 item., which she didn't bring (claiming that she only brings hand luggage). The next time I was going back to the U.K she again produced a shopping list. I politely told her that it would not be convenient. From that time she stopped speaking to me!! Oh, and by the way she never offered me the money for her goods.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: savoyboy on June 15, 2014, 14:25:22 PM
Seems all in all it's better to just bring it out for yourself or as a pressie
 For a friend.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Cavfan on June 15, 2014, 19:34:34 PM
have done over the years booze and bacon but not for a long time. It got to the point that by the last day of the hols nothing had been said and it just got embarrassing! also we asked a friend to bring some bacon out too which they did- best back bacon. they then ordered a bacon sarnie the next day only to be charged full whack and to be served the locally bought rubbish - so no not any more !
Title: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Scunner on June 15, 2014, 19:40:26 PM
I remember one guy who was asked to get a litre of Bacardi for his friends who ran a hotel. He did. During his holiday he as good as emptied it himself, at the hotel bar. On his last day they presented him with a bill, for every single one.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: susuz.1 on June 15, 2014, 21:11:44 PM
We too fell for this in a popular Bar on the Cali's seafront. We had been regulars for many years and many of our friends and family were regulars too. Last year, we were asked if we could bring out some JD and as we were not carrying a lot, duly obliged and took out 2 bottles. We had to carry it down to the restaurant  and on arrival a comment, what sounded like a joke, was something along the lines that they were gifts. When we asked for the bill, we noticed they were in conversation so presumed they would knock off our expenses for the JD. How wrong we were when one of the waiters came up and asked if we had drunk 2 or 3 beers! We said 2 - then bill was produced with no mention of reimbursement! We asked for our money for JD. By this point we were not only upset and angry they didn't want to pay but also had the audacity to ask if we'd had 2 beers or 3! We left on bad terms, have not been back and told all our friends and family. I cannot see how they've gained in the end - shame as they do excellent Chicken Topkapi!
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Piscoe on June 16, 2014, 09:32:40 AM
About ten years ago we brought out something like 12 bottles for one of the more popular bars in Fethiye and after a week we had to ask for the money which is a little embarrassing. But to add insult to injury on our last night it became blatantly obvious they were short measuring on all the drinks, especially the vodka we had brought over for them which they charged us full price for. That was the last time I, or any of my friends, have stepped foot in the place.

I do bring some bottles over for a certain small hotel near us as they do countless favours for us throughout the year. I bring them as a gift and expect nothing in return, there is no awkwardness that way.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: teetee on June 16, 2014, 12:10:06 PM
This is typical of doing a "favour" for quite a few people both in Turkey and elsewhere, which is a shame but a fact of life. Once again it is a case of a number of people spoiling gestures made for those grateful, genuine ones who would benefit from the effort that someone else has made, whether they are able to make some money from the transaction or not  :(  :(

I would always decline as this takes away any potential issues/awkwardness that could arise.   
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: charlste on June 16, 2014, 12:50:14 PM
They will be in a sorry state if we are to be restricted to bringing in 1 litre of spirits at the airport.Then the prices will go through the roof.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: maximumtom on June 16, 2014, 17:08:23 PM
When I first came out, I frequented one of the bars that was open all winter; often I was the only person in there. Once I was asked to bring out a bottle of Bailey's, which I did. I was paid immediately, although my daughter was charged full price for a glass ( which made me smile). I did not mind because I always got my Efes at a reduced rate and, if a new barman tried to charge me full price, the owner would run over to put him straight.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Toky on June 16, 2014, 19:23:47 PM
What bugs me is that the bars charge you as though they'd bought the bottle in Turkey at Turkish prices.. To bring a bottle of something over and pay almost double what it costs at home is a no-no for me. Worse than that this year was getting charged 14TL for a Bailleys that wasn't a Bailleys but a poor substutute. Even the drinks are fakes now!
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on June 16, 2014, 19:27:48 PM
I ordered a G.&.T. at a very famous restaurant on the sea front and it tasted really odd.  I called the waiter over and asked what tonic they used..  He told me Schweppes I told him there was someone wrong with the drink and he said he would change it.   When a new one came back it was exactly the same taste.  We had been to this place many times, but did not go again as I have never tasted a G.&.T. like that one.
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Bluwise on June 16, 2014, 20:36:29 PM
What's your recommended local Gin Jacqui? - I am rather partial to a G&T   ;D  How much can I expect to pay this year in Calis?

We've been asked to bring bottles over before but as the comments above, prefer to avoid the hassle.  Anyway, our allowance is only just enough to keep us going for patio drinks before we go out!
Title: Re: Bringing Stuff Out for Bars and Restaurants
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on June 17, 2014, 09:29:56 AM
Sorry, no idea how much a G.&.T. is I will ask Phil if he know.  I do know that the places we drank in use Gordon's or Beefeater.  In fact, at the Ada I was asked which gin I would like.
Hot news.  In the Ay De Market they had small 150ml cans of Britvic Slimline Tonic, bad news is it was 3.50TL per can.