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Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: steveb1 on July 05, 2014, 11:16:53 AM

Title: internet
Post by: steveb1 on July 05, 2014, 11:16:53 AM
Has any body had trouble connecting to Turkish sites from the uk ? . I have been trying to log on to my bank in turkey for the last 4 days
and it just times out . Have tried 4 different isp . and various computers . Even the visa site seems to take more time than usual.
Title: Re: internet
Post by: usedbustickets on July 05, 2014, 11:56:49 AM
Like many finance websites I expect your Turkish bank will not allow you to access your account from a UK or any 'foreign' IP Address.  It alsmost certainly works the same way in reverse, wherby you cannot access your UK bank account from a Turkish or any foreign IP address.

So either you need a VPN to mask the UK IP address as a Turkish one, or perhaps your Turkish bank will give you permission to access their account using a UK IP address, but you will almost certainly then need to provide a 'fixed' UK IP address.  Which firstly means you are resticted to one place in the UK from where to access your Turkish account, and secondly probably will require some setup with your Internet Service provider (ISP) and possibly some changes to your home (W)LAN to accomodate the fixed IP address.
Title: Re: internet
Post by: Evie on July 05, 2014, 12:57:43 PM
Ive used my laptop for Turkish Banks Garanti and HSBC whilst in the Uk and I access my UK banks via internet  no problem from Turkey. I have done this for many years and never had a problem.
Title: Re: internet
Post by: KKOB on July 05, 2014, 15:30:02 PM
We've never had any problems accessing any of our accounts from Turkey, the UK and anywhere else in Europe.
Title: Re: internet
Post by: mercury on July 05, 2014, 16:54:20 PM
We don't have any problems with internet banking.. I have however been trying to read Hurryet Daily news and can't get on to it.. I can access Zaman with no problem... 
Title: Re: internet
Post by: AOK on July 05, 2014, 17:54:20 PM
Just tried    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/
no problems accessing site ???
Title: Re: internet
Post by: JohnF on July 05, 2014, 18:09:34 PM
Like many finance websites I expect your Turkish bank will not allow you to access your account from a UK or any 'foreign' IP Address.  It alsmost certainly works the same way in reverse, wherby you cannot access your UK bank account from a Turkish or any foreign IP address.

Not correct. 

I can access both Turkish and UK based internet banking from anywhere on my laptop - UK, Turkey, Spain, Portugal are all fine for both my UK account and my Turkish accounts.  In addition, I have smartphone apps for both which also work anywhere and add an extra layer of security when used.  My OH uses different banks in both UK & TR and she never has an issue either.

JF
Title: Re: internet
Post by: usedbustickets on July 05, 2014, 18:11:52 PM
Just to give you an idea that this sort of problem is not restricted to just finance orgainisations, I couldn't book a coach trip in Turkey because I was trying to book, nominally, from the UK using the situation normal with my VPN switched on.  When I shut down the VPN and accessed as normal Turkish user from my ISP I was able to book the trip.  ;)  ;)

Title: Re: internet
Post by: usedbustickets on July 05, 2014, 18:25:32 PM
Like many finance websites I expect your Turkish bank will not allow you to access your account from a UK or any 'foreign' IP Address.  It alsmost certainly works the same way in reverse, wherby you cannot access your UK bank account from a Turkish or any foreign IP address.

Not correct. 

I can access both Turkish and UK based internet banking from anywhere on my laptop - UK, Turkey, Spain, Portugal are all fine for both my UK account and my Turkish accounts.  In addition, I have smartphone apps for both which also work anywhere and add an extra layer of security when used.  My OH uses different banks in both UK & TR and she never has an issue either.

JF

John how do you know I am not correct?  Do you know how every financial organisation operates its security policies and practices, highly unlikely.  In your experience there has not been a problem for you, or indeed others on this thread, but that does not mean that others may have had a different experience from you, including myself, based on the financial organisations they use.  I simply suggested that some, not all, financial organisations operate in this manner, and how they do it, and a possible work round using a VPN.  It's not a matter of being correct or incorrect, it is simply based upon experience, which we then seek to inform people of in order to hopefully help them with a problem they have.
Title: Re: internet
Post by: steveb1 on July 05, 2014, 20:50:41 PM
I have always done internet banking from the uk to turkey never had a problem until about the last few weeks .
Also I have been trying to book some hotels in Cappadocia and Konya which I have done for the last 10 years but when I go to there websites it just goes blank .
Title: Re: internet
Post by: JohnF on July 05, 2014, 21:39:36 PM
Do you know how every financial organisation operates its security policies and practices, highly unlikely. 

Why is it highly unlikely?  Part of my job to ensure our staff (Tier 1 Turkish law firm) can access financial information wherever they are in the world.  From the Borsa to .gov.tr sites with every financial institution and data provider you can think of in between.  Its what i do, although I will concede we don't use KamelKoc very often...

When a financial organisation wishes to restrict access to certain users they rarely do it by RIR (Regional Internet Registries) or as you described it as from a foreign IP address.  Its simply not effective due to the ease with which one can hide/alter an IP address.  Media companies are the main users of this type of block as it often satisfies copyright holders who want phased regional distribution.  We have a few sites that do restrict access to the firms IP address, in these cases when out of the office the users have to connect via our private VPN.

JF
Title: Re: internet
Post by: usedbustickets on July 06, 2014, 07:33:07 AM
Thanks for the experience update, which only goes to demonstrate that the answer is probably more nuanced, rather than a simple correct or incorrect. After all in life in general do we not steer clear of absolutism and always being right and others wrong.  Which is how Reg Erdogoan, and men of his ilk, see and interpret the world.
Title: Re: internet
Post by: kayakebab on July 06, 2014, 08:37:32 AM
We've been having the opposite problem. Having to use VPN to open most pages here in Turkey.
Things like online banking  UK and Turkish banks have been almost impossible, where you put your password in was taking about 10 seconds wait to enter each digit.
But with VPN on its normal speed.