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General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Highlander on July 28, 2014, 22:21:19 PM

Title: Israel
Post by: Highlander on July 28, 2014, 22:21:19 PM
What in the name of all that is decent gives Israel the right to inflict this level of fear on an innocent such as this little girl.

 
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Title: Re: Israel
Post by: kenkay on July 29, 2014, 00:13:12 AM
There is no way I would defend Israel or condone it's actions but I suspect that the Iranian or Russian supplied missiles that Hamas are constantly firing willy nilly into Israel might have some bearing.
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: mercury on July 29, 2014, 00:40:31 AM
It is a long time since I felt such anger and upset in equal measures but this is directed at Idreal...We see in the UK children getting limbs blown off and I can hardly bear to watch..
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: quackers on July 29, 2014, 07:16:59 AM
Hammas may be fırıng rockets ınto Israel but not many are not landıng because of the sheıld supplıed by other natıons. I dont understand mans ınhumanıty to man and the scenes are horrendous.
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: karaokemark on July 29, 2014, 09:47:01 AM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-13331522
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: JohnF on July 29, 2014, 12:15:16 PM
The images shown with this song are fairly old, Michael Heart wrote this in 2009, but the sentiment is unchanged.

As the Daily Mail would say, Warning Graphic Content:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlfhoU66s4Y

JF
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: yabanci on July 29, 2014, 17:15:39 PM
 
Hammas may be fırıng rockets ınto Israel but not many are not landıng because of the sheıld supplıed by other natıons.


Hence only 3 civilians killed to date on the Israeli side but over 1,000 killed on the Palestinian side. >:(
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on July 29, 2014, 17:46:03 PM
Nothing will change this is Israel's chance to obliterate Gaza an the world will watch and do nothing.  The Jews have many rich people in high places in America and this is why no one will help the Palestinians.  Israel want the place to themselves and they have taken land bit by bit over the years and will continue to do so.  The poor people in Gaza are like fish in a barrel they have no hope.
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: chris35 on July 29, 2014, 18:59:07 PM
Nothing will change this is Israel's chance to obliterate Gaza an the world will watch and do nothing.  The Jews have many rich people in high places in America and this is why no one will help the Palestinians.  Israel want the place to themselves and they have taken land bit by bit over the years and will continue to do so.  The poor people in Gaza are like fish in a barrel they have no hope.

Got it in a nutshell Jaqui, my sentiments and thoughts exactly..
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: nichola on July 29, 2014, 22:35:26 PM
They've got a lot of friends in the UK government too according to C4 Dispatches

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/nov/16/pro-israel-lobby-conservatives-channel4-dispatches
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: karaokemark on July 30, 2014, 05:02:02 AM
I got to the second paragraph and thought that's why there will never be peace.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28554477
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: nichola on July 30, 2014, 08:26:38 AM
ahhhh yet another gem from the "unbiased" BBC coverage - watch Al Jazeera for a much better take on both sides.

Here is how Israelis deal with the media. Check it out when listening to them interviewed.

http://stopwar.org.uk/news/how-a-secret-handbook-helps-israel-twist-the-bbc-round-its-finger#.U9ic5vmSySr

There is a petition that people can sign if they are concerned about BBC coverage

"This inability to report the reality of the Israeli occupation has been repeatedly shown by academic studies and reports, including that led by Quentin Thomas, commissioned by the BBC, which noted the "failure to convey adequately the disparity in the Israeli and Palestinian experience, reflecting the fact that one side is in control and the other lives under occupation", and said: "In short, we found that BBC output does not consistently give a full and fair account of the conflict." (Thomas, 2006: 4-7) The BBC has failed to act on any of these findings."

http://www.change.org/petitions/bbc-trust-organise-debate-on-israel-palestine-coverage?share_id=JbbFhRSPMl&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition

Title: Re: Israel
Post by: karaokemark on July 30, 2014, 08:38:31 AM
Nichola the BBC did not make up what the Hamas leader said.
I find it heartbreaking to see what is happening, my post was to show why there will never be peace, when these people want to die.
As for reading the stop the war coalition pages I read this along  with the Mail, Mirror, Sun, Zaman, Hurryiet daily, Sabah all giving a different picture of life here in Turkey and throughout the world
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: nichola on July 30, 2014, 08:49:58 AM
And there will never be peace while Israel want all of the land in that area.

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Title: Re: Israel
Post by: patrice on July 30, 2014, 09:21:07 AM
And there will never be peace while Israel want all of the land in that area.

(http://s29.postimg.org/xu410jmo3/israel_palestine.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xu410jmo3/)

Prisoners in their own land  >:(
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: chris35 on July 30, 2014, 13:24:59 PM
Correct Patrice. Palestine took pity on them and this is how they have been repaying them for the last seventy odd years. A truly "ungrateful,evil breed". >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: kevin3 on July 30, 2014, 17:45:56 PM
For years the Israeli's have played the Holocaust card.       They now appear to be trying their best to replicate it.

I believe they have the neighbour's  they deserve.      Disgusted.      >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: GordonA on July 30, 2014, 18:14:43 PM
They've got a lot of friends in the UK government too according to C4 Dispatches

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/nov/16/pro-israel-lobby-conservatives-channel4-dispatches

Not only friends, but  relatives !! Check out the ancestry of both David Cameron, whose ancestors were German Jewish financiers !        And then we have Ed Milliband, whose
mother, Marion Kozak, a human rights campaigner and early CND member, is a Polish Jew who survived the Holocaust thanks to being protected by Poles. His father, Ralph Miliband, was a Belgian-born Marxist academic of Polish Jewish origin. How can the ordinary people of this country ever hope to see REAL sanctions, or even heartfelt condemnation of what israel is doing to the ordinary civilians of another country, when our government is led by a jew , and the one waiting to take the job on, is also jewish !!??
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: GordonA on July 30, 2014, 18:18:11 PM
For years the Israeli's have played the Holocaust card.       They now appear to be trying their best to replicate it.

I believe they have the neighbour's  they deserve.      Disgusted.      >:( >:( >:( >:(

Kevin. the second part of your post appears to imply that the Palestinian people are undesirable neighbours, how did you come to this conclusion ??
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: chris35 on July 30, 2014, 18:51:46 PM
They've got a lot of friends in the UK government too according to C4 Dispatches

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/nov/16/pro-israel-lobby-conservatives-channel4-dispatches

Not only friends, but  relatives !! Check out the ancestry of both David Cameron, whose ancestors were German Jewish financiers !        And then we have Ed Milliband, whose
mother, Marion Kozak, a human rights campaigner and early CND member, is a Polish Jew who survived the Holocaust thanks to being protected by Poles. His father, Ralph Miliband, was a Belgian-born Marxist academic of Polish Jewish origin. How can the ordinary people of this country ever hope to see REAL
sanctions, or even heartfelt condemnation of what israel is doing to the ordinary civilians of another country, when our government is led by a jew , and the one waiting to take the job on, is also jewish !!??



Very well said Gordon. The Jews run the BBC, and most of the world media if not all of it. They will never be satisfied until they take over the world. That may be strong words but unfortunately it is true.
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: chris35 on July 30, 2014, 18:58:01 PM
Just a bit of info to back up my statements

http://www.rense.com/general38/brits.htm

http://rehmat1.com/2009/01/26/bbcs-jews/
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: Highlander on July 30, 2014, 22:08:11 PM
I am totally lost for words - the Israel Governnment, and it's people should hang their heads in shame and I hope that when they meet their maker, he tells them in no uncertain terms to P*55 off. It is getting to the stage when I hope Israel gets it's due deserts

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28573674
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: patrice on July 30, 2014, 22:13:37 PM
Hear hear Highlander  >:( :'(
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: kevin3 on July 31, 2014, 00:13:29 AM
Gordon.   Re neighbours.

I was thinking more Hamas
                                Hezbollah
                                Lebanese Army
                                Syrian Army
                                Freelance Islamist fighters
                                Muslim Brotherhood (briefly)
                                And dare I say it, The Turkish Government.
World leaders are going to do nothing. Obama's "disturbed"  Cameron's  "concerned".

Right minded people should hit Israeli's in the wallet. Boycott anything Israeli. Protest to their MPs.

Our Middle East Peace Envoy, Teflon Tony Blair and his vast army of of support staff have spent five

years slumming it in 5 star hotels plus unlimited expenses achieving --------------------------------ermm

------------------------------SFA. He gave an update last week and it was all about the Israeli suffering.

    May God bless the people of Palestine.   And may Israel get what it deserves.
 
                                 
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: Scunner on July 31, 2014, 00:23:30 AM
The only thing that can change/is changing is awareness. There is nothing new going on. The things you are seeing on the news have been going on for years. Boycotting Israeli products and companies that supply Israel will help, but not hugely.

The answer is to make it a major UK election issue. Politicians are only interested in getting elected. Accept that and together we can try and convince one of the parties to stand on a pro-Palestinian basis. They might, if they think it could get them elected. And if enough people stand up for this, it could get them elected.
Title: Re: Israel
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on July 31, 2014, 08:37:36 AM
One reason this bombardment of Gaza will continue is the Pentagon have now agreed to supply more arms to Israel.  They have always supplied arms to Israel so even in the current situation, with one hand they are asking Israel to stop bombing Gaza, with the other they are supplying the arms for the killing to continue.