Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: nichola on July 30, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
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Interesting article on research by an old New York restaurant into why it takes double the time to serve it customers.
"Having been in business for many years we noticed that although the number of customer’s we serve on a daily basis is almost the same today as it was 10 years ago, the service just seems super slow even thou we added lot’s more staff and cut back on the menu items".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690490/Service-time-restaurants-doubled-past-ten-years-customers-cell-phones-blame-claims-busy-NYC-restaurant.html
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Dining manners have changed. Years ago no one would have thought of having a chat with someone not at their table.It would have been considered rude. The introduction of mobile phones have created a scene that manners have not caught up with.
A few years ago I dined at a hotel in Jersey.There was a notice on the menu that said guests who chose to make or accept phone calls at table were expected to buy drinks for the neighbouring tables.
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And god help your quiet romantic meal when the table next to you decides that their friends back home should enjoy the experience with them by connecting to Skype whilst still eating their meal - and shouting at the screen as people do!
Of course you could argue it is good to have a "live" independent review of your chosen restaurant from someone 2500 miles away :-)
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Could it not just be due to the fact that restaurant menus have a much greater choice of meals to pick from, ergo it WILL take more time to make up ones mind ??
A different slant on this, but hearing of customers having to wait for up to 45 minutes for ones meal, after placing the order, is, to me anyway, totally unacceptable, and I would wait 15 minutes, then leave.
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Did you read the article before posting Gordon?
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So Gordon if you couldn't get your wi fi in15"minutes you would leave,LoL.
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I would wait for a meal to be cook freshly for me. We have a local restaurant that just opened in a Park near us, they do all their own baking, so all desserts including cakes and biscuits are made by them, they use locally grown vegetables and also use the local Butcher for their meat. They tell you that you will wait at least 20 minutes for main course meal. The place is always packed and you are lucky to get a walk in place. I usually book at least 2 days in advance. The foods is lovely and the place is right next to a big stretch of water with ducks and swans. No traffic noise Well worth waiting IMHO. I have also never seen anyone on the phone or ipad there.
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Did you read the article before posting Gordon?
Yes, of chorse !! The people who wrote the original in New York must have crap staff !!
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So Gordon if you couldn't get your wi fi in15"minutes you would leave,LoL.
Bloody wifi, who the hell mentioned wifi ??
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I would wait for a meal to be cook freshly for me. We have a local restaurant that just opened in a Park near us, they do all their own baking, so all desserts including cakes and biscuits are made by them, they use locally grown vegetables and also use the local Butcher for their meat. They tell you that you will wait at least 20 minutes for main course meal. The place is always packed and you are lucky to get a walk in place. I usually book at least 2 days in advance. The foods is lovely and the place is right next to a big stretch of water with ducks and swans. No traffic noise Well worth waiting IMHO. I have also never seen anyone on the phone or ipad there.
Jacqui., New York , where the post originated, is the "home of fast food ", so, even although it is probably the very last place in the world that I would EVER visit, why would I wait more than 15 minutes for "fast food " ?? I have just received a very nice (money wise ), voucher from an extremely large restaurant chain, because we, and 2 friends from Australia ,were served what turned out to be defrosted, then reheated, frozen food, and presented with a bill for an extortionate amount for what was presented on the menu as " freshly cooked ". The manageress was proud to refer to the people who work in her kitchen as ....................................".PING CHEFS ", only waking up when the micro-wave went Ping !!
Waiting for what does turn out to be freshly cooked is another "kettle of fish " !!
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I had my own fruit and veg distribution business supplying most of the major hotel and pub food retail chains in the UK.
We did as lot of menu development work with them on seasonal food / prepared foods etc but without exception the most difficult thing to manage in catering establishments is getting the balance right for - "peaks and troughs" - this affects labour and wastage!
Now they could do what one of my Customers started doing (original burger chain - same name as house builder) and have minimum wage staff in the staff room who clocked off when they were slack and then were asked to clock back on when a queue formed - disgraceful - but I would rather wait a bit longer than support that type of employment tactic!
The larger a la carte restaurants like De Vere's etc actually prided themselves on not having any items ready prepared so you went there expecting a little wait - as Jacqui said - for freshly made ingredients.
The chef at The Corner Pub (recently criticised for the waiting time but same applies to many others) excels when he has sufficient time and I suspect the owners will gear up once a trend is established but in the meantime these things will happen unless off course he mass produces on Mondays - freezes and then serves it all week with his Ping machine but then none of us would be very happy with solution!
Catering - I was once assured by a reliable source was responsible for more divorces than any other sector due to the constant pressures they worked under at incredibly low net margins (not gross margins)
My business was in fresh food logistics and 20 years ago people would say to me "what does the word logistics mean on the side of your trucks?" - well the American definition was "right product - right place - right time" but I prefer the Oxford English dictionary definition - "the movement of manpower and/or materials (especially during periods of war)" - that was catering summed up perfectly for me!
Caterers - I salute you 
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Have I got this wrong, but isn't the originator of this thread highlighting that meals are taking longer to pass through restaurants because the customer is spending time on their iPhones etcetera instead of concentrating on eating and/or ordering! I didn't think that it was because the kitchens were taking longer to get the meal out! :-\
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You are correct - I am just supporting the hard pressed and oft criticised caterer
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And I am certainly not condemning them! I personally think they do an incredible job and years ago when I undertook a pub management course I learned that the catering industry has the lowest wages (but the highest profit margin) at point of sale. This is the reason I always tip generously unless I have dire treatment and also make sure that the tip goes locally and not to the company coffers! :)
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Absolutely - if the smartphone craze reduces the number of covers served then it will have a serious impact on an already hard pressed sector.
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Macdonlds would suit you Gordon,hardly any waiting time,
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If you ever sit and think of your top (ten?) restaurants, ever & anywhere (could be a new CBF topic right there!!) - you may find that, surprisingly, a good number of them involved waiting - waiting for a table because it is so popular, and/or getting served way too quick because they want you out asap and/or everything is in trays/pots/bottles pre-prepared.
I find food that comes fast quite disturbing :o
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Well said Keith, out asap, Bela Mamas springs to mind there. ;)