Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: nichola on April 06, 2015, 14:42:05 PM
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Just wondering how good a season its going to be this year and whether anyone has seen or heard anything about tourist numbers to Turkey for this year...
Do people think the ISIS/ISIL/Syria situation will affect numbers?
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The numbers of Russian tourists are predicted to be significantly down and those that come may be spending less. This is probably important for resorts from Antalya to Alanya but I guess not so much so for west of Antalya - although Marmaris now has many tourist notices, menus. hotel ads, etc. in English, German and Cyrillic.
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Do lots of Cyrils go to Marmaris now then
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By a casual headcount, I would say there are more Keiths.
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Jan & Feb were slightly up on last year, but until the first quarter figures are released its difficult to gauge it against previous years.
Locally, its -2 as we've no plans to be back before May 2016...
JF
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With the Lira at the level it is to the pound I think the Brit focussed resorts could do well this year. As to the terrorist threat, experience of British tourists suggests that if there is a bargain to be had, they will go to most destinations in Europe/USA (including Turkey) when there is a terrorist or natural disaster.. not sure about some other destinations like Africa/Far East. History has shown that the 'plucky' Brits do not like to miss their annual holiday for anyone or anything, particulalrly when they think they have grabbed a bargin.
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It is my belief that the next terrorist attack will be where it is least expected because that's the way they operate.
That being the case a tourist is no safer, or vulnerable in one location than another.
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Personally as to the terrorist threat in Turkey, the same could be said 4 wherever you go, the separatist movements in Spain, problems in the Middle East etc. we could all holiday in Southend on Sea, but bu--er them all we are off to Calis in June. Take your choices whenever you step outside your front door!!
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A few friends were going to Tunisia immediately after the attack there. Having been there last year and enjoyed it, I wondered if I would have gone straight after the terrorist act. And I decided I would.
Some of the deals straight after were amazing, and as people have said, it could happen anywhere and possibly the least likely place might just be the one where it last happened.
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I have spoken to some guys i work with offshore and they are regular visitors to Turkey but according to their wives they will not be going back due to the terrorist threat, i have explained the situation and yes they would go but the Mrs says no.
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The one thing that would put the tourists off is the cost of flights to Turkey, they are ridiculous.
I was looking at flights for the two of us from Glasgow in September and it came up with over £1,000.
just for two flights. We could go to the States for less than this. >:( :o :'(
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A friend came round for coffee yesterday he owns a very nice boutique hotel in calis, when i asked about this season he said their numbers are down by 10% this season they only have brits there ,he is used by thompson travel.
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Thomson's will be pushing their new Sensatori Resort where they can make a lot of money from their 5 Star price bookings.
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The one thing that would put the tourists off is the cost of flights to Turkey, they are ridiculous.
I was looking at flights for the two of us from Glasgow in September and it came up with over £1,000.
just for two flights. We could go to the States for less than this. >:( :o :'(
Not sure what "it" is, but more tangible sources like Skyscanner have returns for £250ish PP. The most expensive flight with Jet2 only comes to £310 PP and Easyjet from Edinburgh is the same - and both have considerably cheaper flight combinations depending on dates.
Scaremongering.com
JF
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Normally I book a year in advance but due to a friend booking a few days before we flew last year and getting her flights for half the price we paid I thought I would give it a go, so I have been watching the flight prices for May the 16th-24th fluctuate quite a lot for instance around about December out bound flight from Manchester £112 February the same flight £178 the same flight now £122 but the inbound flights have stayed quite low most carriers have them between £45 and £60. so today I saw Easy Jet inbound (24th) £28 so I have booked them now just waiting for out bound to drop below £100 and I will hopefully bag a bargain just for reference I normally pay between £240-£280 per return flight
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The one thing that would put the tourists off is the cost of flights to Turkey, they are ridiculous.
I was looking at flights for the two of us from Glasgow in September and it came up with over £1,000.
just for two flights. We could go to the States for less than this. >:( :o :'(
Not sure what "it" is, but more tangible sources like Skyscanner have returns for £250ish PP. The most expensive flight with Jet2 only comes to £310 PP and Easyjet from Edinburgh is the same - and both have considerably cheaper flight combinations depending on dates.
Scaremongering.com
JF
O.K. it was Thomson's and was a grand. The problem with Skyscanner is they find lots of flights but only one or two that are direct. We don't want to change planes and spend up to 14 hours travelling. I just checked Skyscanner, there is only one direct flight advertised for September, it is Easyjet from Glasgow. Cost for us with two cases is £752.00 and this is without booking seats, paying diesel to Glasgow, finding somewhere to park the car etc.,
Know what I am talking about .com
JH.
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Not sure you do know what you are talking about...
You can select "direct only" flights on Skyscanner and as of two minutes ago there were plenty of Jet2 and TC flights direct available on various dates. In fact, if you go the Jet2 site the most expensive return (i.e. choosing the highest individual inbound/outbound flights) is £310 with the cheapest being £184.
Oh and Easyjet don't fly to Dalaman from Glasgow, only from Edinburgh.
confused.com?
JF
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Having tried a holiday in The Eurozone this year and at The exchange rate the Euro is at at the moment I think that quite a few more people will be avoiding Turkey this year.. Flights are considerably cheaper and so is eating and drinking... We have booked two holidays in Calis for this year but are giving it a miss next year...
I have lost count of how many people who know we lived in Turkey saying " ooh it is too dangerous now" We are continually telling people who have never been and can't understand us going to Turkey at all, that Syria and Iraq are no where near Calis.
The problem being that people perceive it to not be safe now....
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I have virtually given up on Charter flights now. They are uncomfortable,over priced and take at least a day to recover.. A scheduled TA flight Birmingham to Dalaman via Istanbul cost me less than £200 which includes Food and luggage. Add on 2 nights in a nice hotel ( which is part of the Holiday) and taxi fares it works out at well under £300.
In my case I'd rather be the Tortoise than the Hare.
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Here we are with the old flight lottery thread again so I will add my tuppence.It all depends where you want to fly from and when.The Northern and Scottish airports have less flights more surcharges and are usually much more expensive than Midlands or South East.Lots of the scheduled flights are cheaper during the week and at odd hours but if you still work and are stuck to flying at a reasonable time on a weekend again the prices are premium.I have been flying to Dalaman for ten years now,predominantly from Newcastle but a couple of times in the winter we had to go from Manchester.If I can get a return flight ,no prebooked seats,no meals,1 bag for £300 Iam happy.Never had any luck with Skyscanner,Fly Thomas Cook always come out on top ,mind you there's only Jet 2 to compete against from Newcastle and they are more expensive unless as I say you go weekdays.So we are stuck at present with a somewhat Hobson's choice .
In 21 months when we retire we will travel as and when and from where we please as we will have so much more time.We might even drive or take the train,take that much promised detour to Istanbul etc.
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My TA flight is on weekend days... and it would have cost the same from Manchester oop noorth too !!
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Not sure you do know what you are talking about...
You can select "direct only" flights on Skyscanner and as of two minutes ago there were plenty of Jet2 and TC flights direct available on various dates. In fact, if you go the Jet2 site the most expensive return (i.e. choosing the highest individual inbound/outbound flights) is £310 with the cheapest being £184.
Oh and Easyjet don't fly to Dalaman from Glasgow, only from Edinburgh.
confused.com?
JF
O.K. I am looking at any Airport in Scotland. So makes no difference Edinburgh or Glasgow. I looked at the Jet2 Site and again with bags, seats, paying by credit card etc., It comes to just under £800.00. As I said before we can fly to the States for that price. It is all very well finding flights for £300, but that is each and is basic without any extras. So, going to Glasgow or Edinburgh is going to cost us around a grand whatever we book.
punished for living in Scotland .com
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Not sure you do know what you are talking about...
You can select "direct only" flights on Skyscanner and as of two minutes ago there were plenty of Jet2 and TC flights direct available on various dates. In fact, if you go the Jet2 site the most expensive return (i.e. choosing the highest individual inbound/outbound flights) is £310 with the cheapest being £184.
Oh and Easyjet don't fly to Dalaman from Glasgow, only from Edinburgh.
confused.com?
JF
But you are forgetting that £752 = "over £1000". I never did get the hang of New Maths. So it is £376 p.p. A little more than the £340 p.p I paid for flights from Bristol some moths ago. Wow!
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Jackie
Just done a dummy run on Jet2 vi SkyScanner. There are plenty of other days showing low fares as well.
GLASGOW INTL to Dalaman DLM
Dep Thu 03 Sep 2015 15:00Arr Thu 03 Sep 2015 21:35Flight LS1512 Adults 2 x £84.60
Taxes and Charges Included
Was £188.00
Your Saving £18.80
Sub-total £169.20
Show breakdown Base Fare £70.00 APD (Government tax) £26.00 Other Airport Charges £92.00 Discount £-18.80
Dalaman DLM to GLASGOW INTL
Dep Fri 18 Sep 2015 23:00Arr Sat 19 Sep 2015 01:45Flight LS1522 Adults 2 x £129.60
Taxes and Charges Included
Was £288.00
Your Saving £28.80
Sub-total £259.20
Show breakdown Base Fare £196.00 APD (Government tax) £0.00 Other Airport Charges £92.00 Discount £-28.80
Bags Both Ways
Bags£106.00
Seat Selection£38.00
Adult Meals£36.00
Total: £608.40 for 2 people
pay by debit card and no charge
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Apparently, because of the anticipated low number of tourists coming from Russia who traditionally seem to like the AI's in places like Antalya and Alanya the AI's there are turning their attention to and are marketing the British market.
Hopefully Fethiye won't lose out by this as its so much nicer here IMO and so much more to do and see. I still don't understand why people would choose Marmaris and Bodrum over Fethiye either.
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Thanks Pussinboots. It is more difficult for us because we are going for a month.
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'punished for living in Scotland .com'
Isnt the flight distance from Scotland further than the flight distance from down south? ???
Maybe that why flights are more expensive, as you are travelling further :o
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5 less tourists for the area this year and future years tbh as we have decided to explore the Bodrum area now, starting with 2wks in Bogazici near Bodrum in June/July and then 2wks in Zakynthos -Greece in September.
With our kids getting older ( 16,13 ,10 ) we have decided to visit as many different places as possible with them while we can, Next year it will be Croatia and Bodrum area ,undecided exactly where as yet ,for our holidays.
We will visit the Fethiye area again in the distant future as we do like it but we are happy to explore other places for now.
Thanks Fethiye ;) ..... and CBF ;) :)
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With our kids getting older ( 16,13 ,10 ) we have decided to visit as many different places as possible with them while we can, Next year it will be Croatia and Bodrum area ,undecided exactly where as yet ,for our holidays.
We will visit the Fethiye area again in the distant future as we do like it but we are happy to explore other places for now.
Thanks Fethiye ;) ..... and CBF ;) :)
You're welcome :)
That's pretty much where we found ourselves - wanting to show the kids that there was more to this abroad place than just Calis or Turkey. We have managed a different new country each year since returning to the UK for our 'main' holiday and we do manage a week in October in Calis as our 'tradition' - but even that has less of a pull each year. I think as people move back and places close, there's less to miss so perhaps that week will also become used for discovering new places. Mind you, I have said many times after our Calis week that we won't bother for a year or two then return the next year.
As for the fact that there will be far fewer Russian tourists coming to Turkey this year - lucky Turkey :)
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Dalaman DLM to GLASGOW INTL
Total: £608.40 for 2 people
I don't feel penalised for living in Scotland - we are going in October and I have paid less than that for FOUR of us :) I simply drive to where is cheapest - this year Leeds Bradford, £125 return each to Dalaman plus a couple of cases. Driving to Yorkshire is nothing to me, I do it a couple of times a month anyway.
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This is not a comparison to dalaman but to Turkey... 5x flights to Bodrum £980 all in.
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With our kids getting older ( 16,13 ,10 ) we have decided to visit as many different places as possible with them while we can, Next year it will be Croatia and Bodrum area ,undecided exactly where as yet ,for our holidays.
We will visit the Fethiye area again in the distant future as we do like it but we are happy to explore other places for now.
Thanks Fethiye ;) ..... and CBF ;) :)
You're welcome :)
That's pretty much where we found ourselves - wanting to show the kids that there was more to this abroad place than just Calis or Turkey. We have managed a different new country each year since returning to the UK for our 'main' holiday and we do manage a week in October in Calis as our 'tradition' - but even that has less of a pull each year. I think as people move back and places close, there's less to miss so perhaps that week will also become used for discovering new places. Mind you, I have said many times after our Calis week that we won't bother for a year or two then return the next year.
As for the fact that there will be far fewer Russian tourists coming to Turkey this year - lucky Turkey :)
Dalaman DLM to GLASGOW INTL
Total: £608.40 for 2 people
I don't feel penalised for living in Scotland - we are going in October and I have paid less than that for FOUR of us :) I simply drive to where is cheapest - this year Leeds Bradford, £125 return each to Dalaman plus a couple of cases. Driving to Yorkshire is nothing to me, I do it a couple of times a month anyway.
Nor do I Scunner.... £980 all in flights for 5 people to Bodrum..... Bargain compared to £1000 for 2 for others.
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The whole point here is, we ARE penalised for living in Scotland because, if we want a cheap flight, we have to travel a long journey down to England to get one.
Personally, we can now do this, but for working folk in Scotland, travelling to England cuts off precious time from the holiday allotment they are given by their work.
As for AOK's point. Even when flying across to Scandinavian countries, which are near Scotland, or to Shetland, the fares are exorbitant.