Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: Highlander on June 30, 2015, 13:31:39 PM
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Some of the things I overhear in Turkey never ceases to amaze me. Here are a few from our latest visit.
Man asks Erhan (?) in Eyna if he should click his fingers to attract a waiter in Turkey. “No” was the polite reply "you should whistle !". A brilliant response that went straight over this muppet's head.
Man at Letoon who broke a glass right next to steps into Pool and shouted to staff “Sorry my brother”. It's a rough guess but I don't think you two are related.
Restaurant Menu states Casseroles: Beef, lamb, chicken…..woman calls waiter over and asks “is it’s possible to just have one because I don’t think I could manage all three”.
“They tasted very good” the waiters response when someone asked where the missing ducks at the Guitar Bar were.
When I queried why Thomas Cook airlines decanted rows 11 – 35 first at Glasgow, I was told by the stewardess "it's all to do with weight distribution - if they decanted rows 1 to 10 first the plane would trip forward." Aye right !!!!!
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Haha! Brilliant, epecially like the Thomas Cook one! ;D
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I guess you were on my flight to Glasgow..unless they tell these lines all the time!I was in row 2
back to Glasgow on June 24.
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I am still trying to pluck up enough courage to challenge a Thomas Cook Steward to sit in my seat and adopt the brace position ! !
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When I queried why Thomas Cook airlines decanted rows 11 – 35 first at Glasgow, I was told by the stewardess "it's all to do with weight distribution - if they decanted rows 1 to 10 first the plane would trip forward." Aye right !!!!!
If you meant "board/disembark" (as opposed to decanted) then that sounds more like a classic example of cabin crew humour...
JF
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T.C. Flight back to the U.K. Whilst the two rows we were in shivered because the doors had terrible draughts. One guy asked for a blanket. The Stewardess said, "Sorry we don't carry blankets on short haul flights" However, we remember the same draughts 10 years ago, when blankets were given out. Not long after that T.C. were charging £4.50 for a blanket, obviously, no profit n that. The Staff do not know some of us have suffered T.C. for many years.
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Yep, and TC only have paper napkins on their meal trays.
I bet you really have to grit yer teeth when yer travelling with the plebs.
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Bit puzzled about the draughts. I'm presuming that these occurred when the aircraft was on the ground.
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Scorcher, have you never sat by an exit door on a flight? I have, and you definitely get a draft! Sometimes it is really bad and gets pretty cold! :o
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Scorcher, have you never sat by an exit door on a flight? I have, and you definitely get a draft! Sometimes it is really bad and gets pretty cold! :o
It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for ANY door in a pressurised aircraft passenger cabin to have leaking door seals, which are what cause draughts around a door .If such a leak existed , it would be impossible to pressurise the passenger cabin, therefore rendering the aircraft unserviceable !!
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Yes and that's what I would have thought but there's certainly a draft comes from somewhere!! ???
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Suffer this a lot One flight we were on had ice dripping down the door, and my trousers where wet, the stewardess got a cloth and wiped my leg. that was on the occasion they had free blankets. Have not sat by the exit door for a while, but this time it brought back all the memories, freezing cold draught from all around the door, the people in the rows all around the doors started going overhead getting down coats. I put my jacket around my legs. I called over the stewardess, she said they always had trouble with the cold from around the doors, but she would ask the pilot to put up the heating. It helped a little, but the woman sitting behind me had a hat and coat on and her nose was blue and dripping.
I don't care what you say Gordon, but you need to sit by one of these doors and experience 4 1.2 hours of cold and we even paid extra for the pleasure. i.e. extra legroom seats.
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We always pay to get row 1 on the flight back - so we can be home within 45mins of the aircraft door opening.
I cant say its "draughty", but its always much colder - I guess there are non insulated areas around the doors and the cold comes through the frames - after all its about 50 below outside.
Ian
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I don't care what you say Gordon, but you need to sit by one of these doors and experience 4 1.2 hours of cold and we even paid extra for the pleasure. i.e. extra legroom seats.
Now, why do the first 7 words of that statement not surprise me ?? Pay attention everyone , Jacqui Harvey has discovered a way to keep aircraft in the air, whilst the pressurised air is leaking out all around the door seals !! By the way, is it just the " Exit " doors that leak, as some have claimed, or are the " Entrance " doors affected also ? I thought the doors were one and the same ??
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I think Ian is on to something. If one area of the plane has less insulation then this could cause a kind of mini katabatic breeze that could be experienced as a draft. Although I've sat next to emergency exits and have never experienced this phenomenon (should it exist).
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Well, I am surprised that two such well travelled know-alls did not know about this problem on planes. Colywn (should it exists) Basically, you are saying I am a liar, is this correct? I am not a liar and do not make up stories. Gordon, I think Marina also mentioned the cold sitting by the exit seats. So, it is not just me who has experienced this.
We always try to get extra legroom seats. Not all are by the exit doors and not all exit doors have a draught, but some do. On our flight going out we had a different plane and we were further back and so not by the exit doors.
These are a couple of pieces I have found on the internet. I suppose these people are imagining things too?
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From a website that advises sitting about sitting next to exit doors.
Being so close to the exit door can often mean you are going to be freezing during your flight. Climate control on planes is bad enough, but on an international flight, the exit row can become especially cold. And since you can’t ask the crew to turn the heat up just for you, you may need to embark on a mission to find a couple of blankets just to stay warm.
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From another aviation website.
Emergency Exit Seat - FREEZING!
I have sat in emergency exit seats before - but never, until today, on a long-haul flight.
What I'm really looking for is some feedback on whether or not my experience today is "normal" - or whether I should complain to the airline, especially in view of the fact that I paid extra for this "premium" seat.
This was an overnight flight on a 767, and I was in seat 19K - i.e., the window seat by the emergency exit. It was a late evening departure, I had eaten before heading to the airport, so I settled down for the night almost as soon as we were airborne.
Managed to nod off, but awoke after a little while and realised that it was quite cold.
Put my fleece on and zipped it up, and put a shawl round my shoulders for extra warmth.
Nodded off again - woke up and realised that my feet were like blocks of ice (I had earlier removed my shoes and put on a thick pair of socks). Wrapped the airline's blanket around my feet, felt a bit warmer, went back to sleep.
Woke up again, realised that the right-hand side of my body was stone cold. Touched the wall beside me and it felt like the inside of my freezer! Put the cushion between myself and the wall, but within minutes that, too, felt like the inside of my freezer. Tried to position myself away from the wall, but with someone sitting next to me, and no armrest between me and the wall, my options were rather limited, and I ended up having quite an uncomfortable night (not that I expected to have a very comfortable one...).
When the lights came on in the morning I noticed that the lady in 19J had brought her own very thick blanket - did she know something I didn't?
Should I have expected my seat to be so unbearably cold? Should I have come prepared?
I'd be interested to hear from others who have sat in emergency exit rows - especially in this particular type of aircraft.
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O.K. last word from my husband Phil, who is not a member, but just read this. He says to tell you Gordon, that it is of no consequence to him where the cold air is coming from and he does not give fig, he just knows where it goes to and he had to get up and get his jacket from the overhead locker and was not a happy bunny at the time.
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Colywn (should it exists) Basically, you are saying I am a liar, is this correct?
No it is not correct. I said I had not experienced this. In fact I made a suggestion on how it might come about. Clearly the notion that somehow a draft could come from outside the plane is plain silly BUT I'm not sure you said this.
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In a pressurised cabin, if the doors had any "leaks" the air would be going outwards NOT coming in.
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I'm with Phil, Jacqui's husband on this. I don't know, nor do I particularly care, where the cold air comes from but I do know I have experienced some very cold flights sat next to exit doors, which we do quite often as my OH is 6'2" and likes the extra leg room. Science was never my strong point at school so I have no clever explanation as to where it comes from or how it occurs, just where it goes! ???
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Publication number US6019315 A
Publication type Grant
Application number US 08/942,591
Publication date 1 Feb 2000
Filing date 2 Oct 1997
Priority date 2 Oct 1996
Fee status Lapsed
Also published as DE19640741A1, DE19640741C2, EP0834452A2, EP0834452A3, EP0834452B1
Inventors Thomas Scherer, Michael Dreyhaupt, Heiko Luetjens
Original Assignee Daimlerchrysler Aerospace Airbus Gmbh.
SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
According to the invention an aircraft door structure comprises a door frame for installation in an opening of the aircraft body and a door installed in the door frame. Such a structure is equipped with at least one air flow channel in the aircraft door structure for circulating air through the aircraft door structure. At least one inlet port is positioned and connected for admitting air into the air flow channel and one outlet port is connected to and communicates with the at least one air flow channel with a space for discharging air, especially cold air into this space which is preferably positioned below the cabin floor. For this purpose the outlet port passes at the lower edge of the door or door frame through the cabin floor. The construction and position of the inlet and outlet ports is such that the air circulation is preferably sustained by convection.
In a preferred embodiment an air flow channel is formed in a gap between the door frame and the door and an other air flow channel passes through the door itself. Both channels have at least one common inlet port at the top edge of the door and at least one outlet port near the bottom edge of the door or frame.
By passing warm cabin air into the air flow channel or channels in the door structure at the top thereof, the air cools down inside the channels, thereby travelling downwardly through the outlet port into a space where the cold air does NOT form a draft that otherwise would adversely affect the passengers. Such space is preferably below the cabin floor but could be any space within the cabin, for example a closet.
I rest my case , why don't you rest yours' ? you'll feel better !!
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H, bet you didn't know you'd started a thread on drafts.
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Goodness me Gordon, you have gone to a lot of trouble to prove your point haven't you? :)
As I said before, I have no clever explanations where this cold air comes from, unlike you of course, I just know what I, and others, experience. Sometimes there isn't a problem sitting by the exit doors, but often there is. Fact.
And now I'll also rest my case, happy in the knowledge that you, like many men up and down the country, really think they've had the last word! ;) ;D
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I also have to agree with Marina and Jacqui, I don't know or care why or where the icy air comes from but in the front rows (leg room), and strangely only in our return flights, I become freezing cold every time. I've learned to take an extra pashmina in hand luggage and always cover my arms before I sit down and belt up. ;D
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Goodness me Gordon, you have gone to a lot of trouble to prove your point haven't you? :)
As I said before, I have no clever explanations where this cold air comes from, unlike you of course, I just know what I, and others, experience. Sometimes there isn't a problem sitting by the exit doors, but often there is. Fact.
And now I'll also rest my case, happy in the knowledge that you, like many men up and down the country, really think they've had the last word! ;) ;D
You little rascal !!
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;D
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Any chance that we can get back on topic please. :(
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The TC one is true H - also -if they sit people in the back rows first it tips up!
Honest guv :)
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.. and seats near doors are blooody cold! Not a draught - just cold from the door. We never sit there now for that reason alone.
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The TC one is true H - also -if they sit people in the back rows first it tips up!
Honest guv :)
Well that is the opposite to what H was told - he was told if they let the front rows off first (i.e. make the front of the plane lighter) then the plane would tip forward. That is fairly unlikely.
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I know Scunner but the principal is the same and we have actually been told that on a Monarch flight that filled up the middle first. I asked why not the back first as it seemed logical if they were only using the front door to board.
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Gordon, if you ever fly extra legroom. I would advise you to take a copy of that diatribe with you.
Then when it gets cold you can wrap it around your knees.
Back to the thread "H"
Overheard in a shop when we went into Hisaronu. An elderly lady with her younger family,said Merhaba to the staff as she was leaving the shop. She turned to her family and said "Say Merhaba to them, that means Goodbye"
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I know Scunner but the principal is the same
I hate to labour my point (not much) but it is the opposite of the same.
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Gordon, if you ever fly extra legroom. I would advise you to take a copy of that diatribe with you.
Then when it gets cold you can wrap it around your knees.
Back to the thread "H"
Overheard in a shop when we went into Hisaronu. An elderly lady with her younger family,said Merhaba to the staff as she was leaving the shop. She turned to her family and said "Say Merhaba to them, that means Goodbye"
She was obviously as well educated in the Turkish language as you are in English :
From Oxford Dictionaries ; Definition of diatribe in English:
noun
" A forceful and bitter verbal attack against someone or something "
My post was a statement of fact, and not a " diatribe ", but of course you find it difficult to accept anything other than your own ideas......now,
As I suggested earlier, rest your case, you are not winning, and never will!!
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You have much time on your hands Scunner. ;)
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I'll always find time to say something when you try and turn the laws of physics upside down Stoop :D
You are correct that filling a plane from the back could conceivably cause greater weight enough to tip the plane backwards. Removing people from the front first will never, ever cause it to tip forward ;)
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Jacqui next time you have an extra leg room seat, make sure you put your warm bloomers on, thongs are of no use to a woman of your age. ;) :) :)
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Thanks for the advise Des, should Phil also get some long johns..... :)
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..Please-I'm having my breakfast!
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If they put this discussion, on the plane, they would have all the hot air they need, >:( :o :-X : :) ;D ;D,
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Back on topic....sort of.
Not exactly overhead on holiday but I have just read this message to the Foreign Office account on Twitter:
"I'm going on holiday to Oludeniz with my family. As a Muslim family, will we be safe there?"
Umm.... : :) :o : :)