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Title: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Colwyn on July 20, 2015, 12:29:48 PM
A bomb blast has killed at least 27 people and injured 50 in Suruç a Turkish town close to the Syrian border around Kobane. The target was young people from all over Turkey attending an event of the Socialist Youth Association. Today's Zaman has video footage of the explosion.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33593615 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33593615)
http://www.todayszaman.com/latest-news_blast-in-turkish-border-town-with-syria-kills-at-least-27_394051.html

Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Highlander on July 20, 2015, 12:35:48 PM
Horrific :(
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: patrice on July 20, 2015, 15:56:46 PM
Dreadful news >:( :(
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Colwyn on July 20, 2015, 16:28:17 PM
Hurriyet is suggesting that the explosion was triggered by an 18 year old female suicide bomber who was a member of ISIL.
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Scunner on July 20, 2015, 17:38:29 PM
Using explosives supplied via...
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: JohnF on July 20, 2015, 18:00:13 PM
That's a question which maybe best left unanswered on an open forum, although I do think most know the answer anyway.

JF
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Scunner on July 20, 2015, 18:29:09 PM
I did leave it unanswered  ;)
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: kevin3 on July 20, 2015, 22:23:51 PM

 An act of desperation. ??
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on July 21, 2015, 09:55:58 AM
Heard this last night when some stupid woman came to a dinner table on the cruise we are on and announced it had all started in Turkey now that Turkey was being bombed and 28 people killed, of course she did not know where, it is people like her that no nothing that really make me cross. 
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: JohnF on July 21, 2015, 10:54:48 AM
Read into this what you will.  A thousand or so IS supporters having a prayer session on the outskirts of Istanbul on Sunday just gone, with a speech by Halis Bayancuk, also known as Abu Hanzala, one of IS's top dogs in Turkey.  No arrests made despite various government statements regarding a crack down on IS within Turkey.

"Bayancuk was detained in raids against al-Qaeda cells by the police and gendarmerie units in six provinces across Turkey on Jan. 14, 2014, but was let go after no indictment was prepared against him. It is unclear why the prosecutor's office did not indict him, although several others have already been charged."

Ok, maybe lack of hard evidence etc?

"The government removed the police chiefs who undertook the operation from the investigation while reassigning the prosecutor who handled the case and the judge who authorized the raids."

Ah...  now we know why he wasn't charged then.

Full article: TZ (http://www.todayszaman.com/national_isil-allegedly-performs-eid-prayer-in-istanbul-calls-for-war_393973.html)

It's no wonder folks are out in the streets of Istanbul and Ankara - and getting beaten, tear gassed and injured by water cannons because they dare to question the AK party's motives and affiliations.

JF
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: kevin3 on July 21, 2015, 13:51:24 PM

 I'm following it closely each day and it's totally disgusting, and the West must know what's going on.
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Daffodil on July 25, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
The SAS,US and Turkish Security have had  people arrested who are connected to plans to put suicide bombers in areas which would have  killed and injured British tourists. The arrests were in twelve provinces of Turkey.
It isn't confirmed but some of the suspects are said to be British Turks.
The recent Tunisian murders show that the tourism trade to Turkey would be lost if something wasn't done about stopping the actions of these people.
Title: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Scunner on July 25, 2015, 11:01:39 AM
So, can we assume that had the game changing events not happened down at the Syrian border, that the situation would be that there was verified intelligence about attacks in Turkish tourist areas that they would have carried on doing nothing about?
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Daffodil on July 25, 2015, 11:55:56 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: nichola on July 25, 2015, 15:07:37 PM
The SAS,US and Turkish Security have had  people arrested who are connected to plans to put suicide bombers in areas which would have  killed and injured British tourists. The arrests were in twelve provinces of Turkey.
It isn't confirmed but some of the suspects are said to be British Turks.

What is your source for this?
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: patrice on July 25, 2015, 15:38:24 PM
I read similar a report in the Daily Mirror
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: KKOB on July 25, 2015, 15:59:15 PM
The SAS,US and Turkish Security have had  people arrested who are connected to plans to put suicide bombers in areas which would have  killed and injured British tourists. The arrests were in twelve provinces of Turkey.
It isn't confirmed but some of the suspects are said to be British Turks.

What is your source for this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sas-counter-terror-police-foil-6133731
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Daffodil on July 25, 2015, 23:10:10 PM
Dozens of IS safe house addresses in Istanbul have been raided and 300 arrested. They were found to be part of a support network for European jihadis entering Turkey on their way to Iraq and Syria. MI6 gave tip offs to the authorities. Turkish police also seized laptops and documents. I wonder if the charges will stick?
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: JohnF on July 26, 2015, 00:59:43 AM
Don't believe everything you read in the newspapers...

JF
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Daffodil on July 26, 2015, 21:36:59 PM
Turkey has called for a full NATO meeting and it looks as if this will go ahead on Tuesday.        There are riots in Istanbul involving  so many different groups it becomes very complicated to understand the whole picture.                 
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: KKOB on July 26, 2015, 22:25:46 PM
Oh good, that's everything sorted now then.
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: kayakebab on July 27, 2015, 06:49:16 AM
This should make it easier to understand. Or not.
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: JohnF on July 27, 2015, 08:03:48 AM
I think RTE must have been given a copy of Thatcher's biography as a bayram present.

The events of the past few weeks (sort of) mirror the run up to the UK invasion of the Falkland islands, with a good few political commentators suggesting that the military action is a pretext to allow for a snap election to be called for - in the hope that the AKP will get a majority off the back of them being seen to be "protecting" Turkey.

He's playing a dangerous game and risking a return to the situation Turkey was in during the eighties, when the PKK carried out bombings etc all over Turkey.  You factor in the various nut jobs who, under the banner of IS, suddenly see the hand that fed them now giving them a punch in the mouth - who knows what they will do.

You can just imagine the nightmare scenario, two suicide bombers (one each from PKK and IS) having a square go outside a Polis station over who gets to vapourise themselves.

Hopefully, NATO may come up with a better solution then the current course the Turkish government is pursuing.

JF


Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: kevin3 on July 27, 2015, 08:24:18 AM

 You've got it  in one John, and all because of one man.
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Daffodil on July 27, 2015, 09:01:07 AM
Yes,right,I now have a crystal clear picture of what is going on.And a headache!What would be the solution to all of that?
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Colwyn on July 27, 2015, 10:07:07 AM
Has Tayyip's son Bilal stopped channeling funds to IS via the Islamic charity IHH now that his dad is supposedly bombing IS? I wonder.
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: KKOB on July 27, 2015, 10:54:25 AM
Is there any truth in the rumour that 1 of RTE's daughters is working in a hospital set-up specially to treat IS fighters ?

A discontented nurse working clandestinely for a covert medical corps in Şanlıurfa—a city in south-eastern Turkey, close to the border with neighboring Syria— divulges information about the alleged role which Sümeyye Erdoğan plays in providing extended medical care for ISIS wounded militants transferred to Turkish hospitals.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkish-presidents-daughter-heads-a-covert-medical-corps-to-help-isis-injured-members-reveals-a-disgruntled-nurse/5462896
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: kevin3 on July 27, 2015, 11:24:02 AM

 According to one of the Turkish newpapers, Hurriet I think, the US has recovered a lot of data, including USB's

 from an ISIL base in Syria that they bombed. This data links top ISIL officials with top AKP figures.!!

 Interesting times ahead.??
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: KKOB on July 27, 2015, 11:30:05 AM
(http://mediamadmeg.co.uk/image/cache/data/madmeg/FM1372-800x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: Scunner on July 27, 2015, 12:02:43 PM
Bombproof USB drives, what a good idea.
Title: Re: Bombing at Suruc
Post by: JohnF on July 27, 2015, 14:39:21 PM
Looks like the Polis are taking the threat of domestic terrorism seriously - especially after one was killed in Istanbul and five injured (in Mardin) yesterday.

"The Istanbul Police Department sent a written document to all of its units warning of possible attacks in crowded places in istanbul, particularly in regards to the Yenikapı-Taksim metro line and metrobus, both crucial public transportation routes, on Monday."

Full article: TZ (http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/police-officer-killed-in-istanbul-amid-rising-violence-against-security-personnel.aspx?pageID=238&nID=85987&NewsCatID=509)

JF