Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Daffodil on August 03, 2015, 13:03:02 PM
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Just read an inventive couple took advantage of cheaper holiday prices by claiming they were travellers and were allowed to take children out of school.They said that they were off to lay tarmac! ;)
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Fair play to them !!
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But they are going to be done for it according to what I have read (Mirror on-line)
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May be that they are laying Tarmac in Turkey??
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3183674/Father-escaped-fine-taking-two-sons-term-time-holiday-Corfu-week-claiming-GIPSIES.html
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This topic really does pi55 me off, the article doesn't state if or what occupation the father has, but assuming he does have an occupation why should hard working parents be reduced to lying because they want a well earned holiday with their family.
I do and will continue to take my children out of school for extra days over the whitsun holiday every year because we want to spend more than a week in turkey together as a family. Both myself and my husband work bloody hard, full time, pay our taxes, are bringing our children up to be educated, well mannered and have good morals. They have been awarded praise by the head for being model peers at school. Both their attendances this year were 98% and 97% respectively.
Fortunately our head has granted our holiday each year, but even if he choses not to I would put up a bloody good fight not to pay a fine for spending valid time together as a family.
Our British children spend more time in education and have less holidays than most other European countries they also start schooling much younger too.
Not all parents can take leave during school holidays and most decent heads will use their discretion for employment restrictions but there are also some very pedantic ones who wont budge.
My choice of holidaying dates have nothing to do with cost its about CHOICE over MY children, Whitsun cost just as much if not more than the summer holidays but we choose then so the children only miss 4 or 5 days off school (tagging it on to a school week), we also visit again during the summer holiday. I am sure there will be some that feel this is terrible but my children's education has not been effected by missing school.
My daughter has just reached her expected grades and exceeded in one by 2 yrs, she also speaks a fair amount of Turkish for her age, my son has reached all his targets and exceeded in 2, one of which was the WORLD...I wander why???.......Rant over sorry for any bad grammar its late and I'm off to kipp and in 2days time will be back home in Turkey yippeee.
markar
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What also annoys me is that days off are usually at the end of the summer term when they do very little in the way of work, it's wind down time and sports /fun days etc etc, yet they still kick off about it. We often 'stole' a few school days for our holidays and my children never suffered for it. Flexibility is the key word, not total control.
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When I was at school most of the school trips to the South of France or skiing in Switzerland were timed to start a few days before the end of term or finish a few days after the start of the new term. That way the organisers could take advantage of the reduced costs and pass them on to pupil's parents. None of us suffered by missing a few lessons but we gained a lot by being involved in other cultures.
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Never had a problem taking our girls out of school during term time - a few times they came with me to Istanbul and a short note to the school requesteing time off, citing the cultural and educational advantages of spending time in Istanbul seemed to do the trick.
On one occasion, permission came with the proviso that one of them wrote a short report for their Modern Studies class about life in Istanbul - thankfully, my suggestion that writing about the transgender/transvestite prostitutes that used to hang about near Sirkeci would not make ideal reading for fourteen year olds back in Glasgow was heeded!
JF
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A great money-spinner for local authorities - £60 per child, per parent, per week missed.
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Rules like this rips my knitting!!!! How dare some unknown face sitting in an office tell me what I can and cant do with my child. I would be skint and bankrupt if that happened when my kids were young. We holidayed every May & September and my girls were none the worse, educationally for it. My grandaughgter was recently taken out of school for a holiday by her father to spend his 40th birthday with his twin brother and his family in Nashville. En route, they had stopped in Amsterdam for 2 days for my grandaughter to learn about and see the Anne Frank house, and visit the Remrandt house museum. During their time in Nashville, they visited cultural places as part of keeping the visit part educational for her. She also learnt to confidently drive a tractor on her uncle's land and visited the Tennessee Agricultural History museum. So it wasn't all yeehaa and country music. She learned a lot on that trip. So having just spent a long weekend with her and my other grand children, I was amazed at why she kept taking herself away. Turns out that she has been given a MEGA amount of school work to do during her school holidays in lieu of being off for 2 weeks during term time. Fortunately she is performimg well at school as her results prove , so feels that this chore given to her, is a result of a teacher is power crazy and hasn't looked at the bigger picture. >:( >:( >:(
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When I was at school most of the school trips to the South of France or skiing in Switzerland were timed to start a few days before the end of term or finish a few days after the start of the new term. That way the organisers could take advantage of the reduced costs and pass them on to pupil's parents. None of us suffered by missing a few lessons but we gained a lot by being involved in other cultures.
Luxury, bloody luxury. At my School or 'ard Knocks the school trips consisted of The Commonwealth Institute and the Imperial War museum, and the nearest we got to skiing was when it snowed and we took a kitchen tray down various local hills, or roads with a bit of slope!! Still mum saved all year so we did have a holiday in either Bognor Regis or Margate, and I do remember the first time we went for a fortnight.... wow that was living. The holiday was always during term time in June, and I do not recall taking in a note advising that we would be absent either. And the whole experience never did me any harm.
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And the whole experience never did me any harm.
How do you know?
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Its all to do with finance. It used to be that 10 school days could be taken off for holiday with permission. Permission was always needed for authorised leave.
Now any day taken outside term time even if by permission is classes as unauthorised and the school looses funding. Ufortunately in most schools this really matters.
I remenber my youngests head saying to me(when he was in reception) that he would learn lots on the holiday.Our reason for taking the end of sept/early october was that he suffered convulsions in hot waether and it was much cooler then.My profession (though not working at time) , a primary teacher.
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And the whole experience never did me any harm.
Who told you that ? ;)
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And the whole experience never did me any harm.
How do you know? - Colwyn
Who told you that ? ;) - KKOB
You two are off my xmas card list and barred from the Official UBT Fan Club.
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the Official UBT Fan Club.
How interesting... a club all about fans - speciality sections for ceiling mounted and free standing p'raps?
JF
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So the Gypsies have a different set of rules to the rest of us. Well I am surprised.!
Perhaps they're worried that if they upset them they won't keep returning to our
green and open spaces.
I wonder if there are other "groups" that have special exemptions.?
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You are not allowed to say the word "Gypsies" because that is racist and therefore you must be "travelerphobic".
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But there are Gypsies and there are Travellers. And yes, they both have different rules to the rest of us. Just like all the other minorities.
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they both have different rules to the rest of us.
Oi! What's this "rest of us" claptrap? I'm not going by the same rules as you. No way.
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There's something about you that I like Colwyn. For the life of me a can't remember what it is, or why. ;)
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So the Gypsies have a different set of rules to the rest of us. Well I am surprised.!
Perhaps they're worried that if they upset them they won't keep returning to our
green and open spaces.
I wonder if there are other "groups" that have special exemptions.?
I believe that police officers children are exempt too or at least they used to be.
Markar
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If they are going to fine parents for taking kids out out in term time it should be across across the board or abolished.
It's open to abuse and likewise the headmasters discretion. We managed without fines for generations.
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There was a woman on "This Morning" a couple of weeks ago, who now faces jail for taking her children out of school in term time. So it is not just fines that parents face.
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It must be more lenient in Scotland - our girls' school have an award ceremony in the last week before the Summer break up and the number of kids who are called up to collect an award only for someone to confirm they are not in school is amazing - and they are all off on holiday. We took our girls out 2 days early this year (having seen this award ceremony several times!!) but it was by accident - we always fly on the same day each year, in previous years it was just after the end of school term, for some reason this year ended a week later.
However, no strife, no fines, we asked for permission and were told that it would be marked down as "unauthorised absence" - no punishments though.
Last year we met a family from Essex on holiday - we were in school holiday time up here but England still had a number of weeks to go. When we asked what they had to do to get their kids out for the holiday they said they got special permission for a close family member's wedding. They didn't take any chances, everyone got dressed up one day, including bride in wedding dress, bridesmaids all matching, photographer.
Nothing strange there you may think. Well no, apart from it being all for show and photos, there was no wedding :D