Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: Stuart T on August 14, 2015, 16:12:26 PM
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Further to Corbyn's refusal to denounce the Marxist - following IRA (along with his valiant supporter Ken Livingstone)........do we not mature enough to see the practical results of this airy fairy socialist nonsense?
Sure, at 20 we may well have a socialist attitude to life - or we appear not to have a heart. I remember my college days.
But past 30, if we still hold to those socialist ideals, surely we don't have a mind.
Bit of light banter for the weekend........
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Was there any particular reason for that post or have you just been reading the Daily Mail?
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I will put money on this thread, that it will not be light banter.
However, we held on to our Socialist feelings until we voted for Tony Blair, we soon lost them, as he did in the next few years.
I also think members can post what they want about policitics, just as you do Colwyn. Incidentally, I don't read the Mail. I like the Daily Record and Phil likes the crossword in it ;)
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Just following on from Jacqui's post.
Never have and never will take the Mail.
Seemed like a narrow view restricting it to Corbyn alone.
Thought I'd stretch it out a bit.
Polarised views on the Forum and feeling my way as I go........
May yet crash and burn!
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I also think members can post what they want about policitics, just as you do Colwyn. Incidentally, I don't read the Mail. I like the Daily Record
Quite so. I suppose writing a thread with the intention of winding up people is OK too. Stuart is going to have to do much better than that to effect a wind-up. I would never accuse you of being a DM reader Jacqui (not even in an attempt to wind you up) but since I've never read the Record I have no idea about the significance of that. As for Phil's crossword, I used to do the crossword in my mate's Daily Telegraph - never read anything else in it though.
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I did my incompetent best.......
....perhaps wasn't the best subject heading.
At least it got a (albeit lukewarm) response.
Just feeling my way gently into the deeper circles of the Forum.
So - it appears that Calis and Fethiye isn't full of crusty old conservatives.
Back to the Indian forum and to laud the days of the Raj!
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So - it appears that Calis and Fethiye isn't full of crusty old conservatives.
Calis and Fethiye may be, but the forum isn't. Some of us are crusty old Marxists who are amazed that anyone can still support capitalism after it was, yet again, proven to be a failure in 2007/8.
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Capitalism certainly faced a crisis in 2007/8 but it's still there.
It will survive because it is the only way to create wealth and opportunity.
Economies will become more advanced and wages and living standards will continue to rise.
Marx's idea of capitalism is way different to today's.
Trade - that's how we create wealth. Labour (not the party) doesn't create value - demand does.
Marx didn't get everything wrong but maybe even the "crusty old Marxist" can concede that in 2015 capitalism continues to evolve to meet today's demands.
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As for Phil's crossword, I used to do the crossword in my mate's Daily Telegraph - never read anything else in it though.
I used to do the Sudoku puzzle in my wife's Take a break magazine. :)
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I live in Fethiye, I am a forum member and I'm a socialist, just left of Bevin, I reckon.
I'm not sure why you want to wind me up though.
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Menthol - as stated - poor choice of heading.
Mea culpa.
Beginner's mistake.
Sentiments/reasoning remains.
Seems to be quite a few of you on the forum whose political standing is somewhat leftish.
Thought I'd give a crusty old Tory's bash at a few words in light of Corbyn's apparent popularity over here.
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I used to do the Sudoku puzzle in my wife's Take a break magazine. :)
Very bold of you to come out about this.
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Yes, Phil loves the crossword in the Daily Record, which is a Socialist newspaper, but I enjoy the Scottish news in it and have bought it since we moved to Scotland when I was a Socialist. I get the feeling it will be an SNP paper one day. I might say, Phil, reads the football news too, but gets most of his news from reading the internet.
I am non-political now, fed up with politics and after years of voting I am disillusioned. I used to be enthusiastic about one party and wanted to vote for them, but then they turned out the same as all other parties. Every party promises Utopia, but when they get it is the same old s%@t.
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Tony Blair wouldn't embrace Capitalism, would he.? Nah, surely not.
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Ah well..........
That's put the lefty/righty skirmish (all too brief but an eye - opener) in perspective.
I'll just go and do the Wordsearch in the "People's Friend" and join the common throng.
That is the level to which this thread has seemingly (and perhaps deservedly) fallen.
I'm far too outnumbered by Welsh, Scottish and Northern tribes to ever hope for a thumbs up or support for my right of centre views.
I will retire this thread and retain what little respect I may have remaining (and that, perhaps, only as a result of reasonably good grammar and spelling).
8)
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I'm far too outnumbered by Welsh, Scottish and Northern tribes to ever hope for a thumbs up or support for my right of centre views.
Don't forget us Southerners! :)
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What's wrong with the daily mail then .
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What's wrong with the daily mail then .
If anyone answered that, we'd all die of old age before they'd finished.
Far easier to answer "What's right with the Daily Mail?"
Incidentally, one of my friends works on the newsdesk there. When we were cub reporters together she was even further left than Menthol. >:(
Not quite sure what happened there.... :o
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I will retire this thread and retain what little respect I may have remaining
I think you extricated yourself pretty well after the false start. If you want to find general agreement on politics on here you could try Turkish politics and jolly old Erdogan.
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Not necessarily...