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General Topics => All things that have nothing to do with Turkey => Topic started by: davybill on November 26, 2016, 07:02:26 AM
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Fidel Castro dies aged 90.
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Amazingly survived 638 assassination attempts! As some are saying, even he couldnt survive 2016
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They are dancing in the streets in Florida:
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/802454349100281860
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Fidel Castro: a man of extreme contradictions. Created a country with by far the best social welfare and education systems in Latin America, but achieved it via a brutal regime and suppression of human rights. Mind you, not as brutal as those of the dictator Batista, whom Castro overthrew, and is still revered by the Fascistic Cubans in Miami.
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Predictably Comrade Corbyn gave a speech singing his praises but forget to mention his death squads ect. !!
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Predictably Comrade Corbyn gave a speech singing his praises but forget to mention his death squads ect. !!
Didn't hear any howls outrage over David Cameron's glowing praise for Abdullah bin Abdulaziz when he died. Seems that dictators are OK as long as they are being the obedient kind....
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Watched an interview with John Simpson yesterday who said he had met and interviewed Castro many times and that he, Castro, was a charming man to speak to. However, he went on to say that Castro was also a ruthless dictator who imprisoned, tortured and executed many people.
However, in recent years I have known so many people going to Cuba on holiday, so the politics of the country has not stopped tourisim. ;)
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Fidel Castro: a man of extreme contradictions.
Who in turn created a country full of extreme contradictions.
Was fortunate enough to spend a month or so travelling in Cuba during 2008 and can honestly say (as a foreigner) it was the friendliest and safest country I've ever visited. Started off in Havana and travelling independently worked our way down to Santiago de Cuba in the south.
Almost every person we came into contact was fiercely proud of their country, but in turn many hated their country due to the restrictions they had to live under - foreign trade embargo, more secret police than you could wave a surveillance mic at, crap food and the rest of the problems folks have when living under a dictatorship (anyone noticing a parallel here?).
We had a couple of brushes with the authorities, both secret and non secret police, but in general found them to be respectful and polite - obviously as foreigners bringing in much needed hard currency we were treated very differently to locals.
Our overriding memories of Cuba are music, rum and the friendly people. The food overall was pretty poor although we did have some fantastic meals at places most local folks couldn't go simply because they couldn't afford it.
One dark memory from Cuba was the high incidence of child prostitution in the popular Holguin area - families actively pimping out twelve year old daughters to rich Canadians and Germans. Even to the extent of them all going out for a meal together - it was after observing this and deciding that the fat middle aged German deserved to have his photograph publicised on the internet that we had one of our brushes with the local police...
JF
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Didn't hear any howls outrage over David Cameron's glowing praise for Abdullah bin Abdulaziz when he died. Seems that dictators are OK as long as they are being the obedient kind....
It will be interesting to read obituaries for Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The sooner; the better.
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Didn't hear any howls outrage over David Cameron's glowing praise for Abdullah bin Abdulaziz when he died. Seems that dictators are OK as long as they are being the obedient kind....
It will be interesting to read obituaries for Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The sooner; the better.
Like Castro, a member of Reg's family will take over.
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Fidel Castro: a man of extreme contradictions. Created a country with by far the best social welfare and education systems in Latin America, but achieved it via a brutal regime and suppression of human rights. Mind you, not as brutal as those of the dictator Batista, whom Castro overthrew, and is still revered by the Fascistic Cubans in Miami.
we could have fantastic social care in this country if we take a leaf out of his book and murder a few million people. Takes the pressure off a little don't you think?
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Fidel Castro: a man of extreme contradictions. Created a country with by far the best social welfare and education systems in Latin America, but achieved it via a brutal regime and suppression of human rights. Mind you, not as brutal as those of the dictator Batista, whom Castro overthrew, and is still revered by the Fascistic Cubans in Miami.
take a leaf out of his book and murder a few million people.
A few million? Wow, you must have been reading the Sun, or maybe the Express, or maybe you just plucked the figure out of thin air because you haven't a clue...
Estimates vary for deaths that can be attributed to the Castro regime over a period of approx 55yrs, from 16,000 to over 100,000 depending on who you decide to believe. Some estimates are purely anecdotal, some claim to have corroboration from two sources for each death.
Tale your pick!
What is undeniable is that during his reign, Cuba's literacy rate was higher than most western countries, their education system was first class and the standard of healthcare enjoyed by all the envy of many.
JF
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Fidel Castro: a man of extreme contradictions. Created a country with by far the best social welfare and education systems in Latin America, but achieved it via a brutal regime and suppression of human rights. Mind you, not as brutal as those of the dictator Batista, whom Castro overthrew, and is still revered by the Fascistic Cubans in Miami.
take a leaf out of his book and murder a few million people.
A few million? Wow, you must have been reading the Sun, or maybe the Express, or maybe you just plucked the figure out of thin air because you haven't a clue...
Estimates vary for deaths that can be attributed to the Castro regime over a period of approx 55yrs, from 16,000 to over 100,000 depending on who you decide to believe. Some estimates are purely anecdotal, some claim to have corroboration from two sources for each death.
Tale your pick!
What is undeniable is that during his reign, Cuba's literacy rate was higher than most western countries, their education system was first class and the standard of healthcare enjoyed by all the envy of many.
JF
Well considering there were less than 7 million people in Cuba in 1959 it seems a million might be about the right number to get rid of in the UK today.
Add in the 1,1 million exiles who left Cuba under Castro and a few million is not far off the mark!
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Being an exile in the USA is equivalent to being murdered? Have you been dabbling with illegal substances, young Stoop?
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Great, if you cant debate with facts - just make them up.
Worth remembering that a high proportion of those who left Cuba at the start of the revolution were in fact supporters of Batista. Someone who could have given guys like Franco, Salazar and Ceausescu a few lessons in how to get rid of political opponents.
JF
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We went to Cuba in 2006 and had an enjoyable time there.
If I were to go again it would certainly be within the next 2 years as now that Obama has warmed relations with the leadership, American conglomerates are chomping at the bit to get in there and force their money making ventures, hotels, stores, fast food outlets upon the poor Cubans.
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Hamlet so right great opportunities to be had, some of the Islands ripe for new development, it might mean the locals are able to get better paid than $15 a month when I last visited, some years ago now. I would invest there after the commies leave office.