Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: Cavfan on December 12, 2016, 17:35:58 PM
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Hi all, a friend of mine has booked to go to a luxury 5 star hotel with swim up rooms in Calis. Turns out its Jiva Beach, and it's costing £1000 each! Any recent feedback?
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Julesbob and hubby stayed there last October and reckoned it was one of the best hotels they had ever stayed in.
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We met a few from there last year and they all loved it.
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we stay in one of the swim up rooms for 4 nights and enjoyed it and the food was lovely
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That's good to hear thanks folks
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During the summer I met three couples who were staying there and all of them said how wonderful it was with excellent staff and really good food .One lady was disabled and in a wheelchair and she said they were so helpful to her in every way so it sounds like it is getting a very good reputation .
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We also stayed a couple of nights in October. The food and drinks choice was excellent.
It's has a 24 hour all inclusive programme, with a lovely onsite patisserie.
I would definitely recommend it and would go again.
I'm sure they will have a great time.
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The only thing I would say, as an A.I. It is not good for the local restaurants as everyone eats in.
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Julesbob didn't, they were out with us most nights ;) :D
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The only thing I would say, as an A.I. It is not good for the local restaurants as everyone eats in.
Great. Chuck in an unessesary negative comment to a topic that has been overwhelmingly positive regarding a local hotel. You really think they don't know it's AI?
Posting for sake of posting comes to mind.
JF
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and it's costing £1000 each!
For how long Cavfan ?
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I think for 10 days, so for AI not bad I don't suppose! Though it cost us that for 2 at the Manas Park ! Not quite the same .....
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I couple of good nights in Scarlett in the old days would have made a big hole in that :)
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The only thing I would say, as an A.I. It is not good for the local restaurants as everyone eats in.
Great. Chuck in an unessesary negative comment to a topic that has been overwhelmingly positive regarding a local hotel. You really think they don't know it's AI?
Posting for sake of posting comes to mind.
JF
Forums are about opinions. We all have them. I am sure a lot of people worry about A.I's. We stayed at the Letoonia on our first visit to the area. We did go out every day. However, lots did not. We spoke to one couple who had never left the place in two weeks. The area needs visitors and needs people to use the restaurants. It is natural to worry about this.
I have read a lot of reviews of the Jiva and the Sensatori they are very good, but lots say you never need to leave or spend any money. One man advised that all you need is money for a newspaper every morning.
As an Admnistrator you certainly are not encouraging members and particularly new ones to post, because if they do not agree with your opinion or your views on a posting they will be castigated.
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Forums are all about opinions and, in my opinion, your post was unnecessarily negative in a topic that was on the whole positive about the Jiva.
So what if folks don't want to leave the resort, that's their choice - even if you personally don't agree with it. Its up to local businesses and restaurants to raise their game and attract AI visitors to visit and spend money.
As regards your last sentence, even if that were the case (which it's not), pot & kettle come to mind over someone disagreeing with a members views or having a different opinion on a subject...
JF
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AI's aren't our choice either, we stay either B & B or an apartment and eat out all the time We'd also go stir crazy not leaving a complex for two weeks to get out and about and see other places. However, they are very popular and if people want to pay their hard earned cash to stay in them that's entirely their choice.
All the positive comments on here about Jiva show they are doing something right and are attracting visitors. Some won't go anywhere else, some will venture out and eat elsewhere. I agree with JohnF it's down to the restaurants and establishments in Calis, especially the ones on the prom, to up their game and attract these people. But whether you like it or not AI's are popular.
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We've had a few friends from the UK stay at the Jiva Beach and their feedback has been very positive.
A friend who runs a restaurant locally said they had quite a few nights in early/late season this year when they had a lot of diners who were staying there. One thought was that because the hotel was offering such cheap deals at the time (due to the lack of tourists) they were actually being encouraged to eat off-complex to save food/drink costs to the hotel.
I have no idea if this is true or not, but one couple we know said the staff were quite keen to tell them about facilities and restaurants in the area that they could visit.
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During the summer I met three couples who were staying there and all of them said how wonderful it was with excellent staff and really good food .One lady was disabled and in a wheelchair and she said they were so helpful to her in every way so it sounds like it is getting a very good reputation .
I think we met the same couple with their old mum. She really struggled to get on the bus which took us up to Kings Garden. They loved the place.
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We had a great two day AI deal last May at Jiva Beach resort... and I agree with all the above positive comments, also it was excellent value at £27 each per day !!!!! but for us two days is enough.... the food being why :P its almost continuous throughout the day it seems... all those tempting dishes etc... be prepared to gain a lot of weight if you stay longer : :) but lovely as a `short` break .. for us anyway .
Also, 80% of guests there were turkish .... and why not ? its their country ;D english guests were in a minority for once :o
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On the number of visits we paid to turkey this year and staying in sunset we would have noticed alot of jiva beach guests (wrist bands a bit of a give away ) out and about in bars/restaurants think the big difference with jiva against other AI You aren't located in the middle of now where relying on transport to get you to Calis or Fethiye like many of the other AI Resorts -as they say Horses for courses
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We had two stays at Jiva this year one for two nights and second time just for one night for a suprise for my hubby's burfdee, totally loved it, made a lovely change and both times got a very good price...
Booked two nights for next year, 2 nights is enough for us, it has become our fav hotel in Calis...
The only thing I will say and this is just my opinion! Re the swim up rooms at Jiva they are a tad misnamed as they dont go anywhere i.e to the main pool, basically they are just a big paddling pool, possibly deep enough for a swim probably one length! And your next door neighbour is just that literally right near you not any privacy for the lower floor rooms....
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I never thought about the irony of it – It’s in the interest of BOTH the All Inclusive Resorts AND the local businesses that guests spend as much time away from the resort as possible !
Another irony is that I am posting this here and I agree that comments about the merits or otherwise of AI should be kept to threads about AI resorts and not pop up as negative contributions in threads seeking specific information about specific establishments.
( Is irony the opposite of wrinkly ? )
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It doesn't matter if people come to Turkey AI or B&B. What matters for the local economy is that they come to Turkey and not Spain/Greece/Morocco etc.
Our first visit to Turkey was AI, ironically I seem to recall Jacqui's might well have been too. Thanks to AI, we have both aided the local economy very well since then.
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Our only experience of AI was our 4th time in Turkey. The kids were young, eating every two minutes and drinking juice in between. For us it represented great value. We were in Antalya for 4 weeks, private beach, never saw the same menu twice, and looked after from the moment we got off the shuttle. Nothing was too much too ask. We ventured offsite and got lost in a banana grove, there was nothing else there. Our overriding memory of that holiday is an old toothless woman chasing us through the banana grove with a basketful of the sweetest tomatoes I have ever tasted.
Most of the locals supplemented their income working in our hotel. AI has its place.
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Typo last post Antalya is alanya
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A lot of the expats go away for AI for Christmas and the New Year,
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My first trip to Turkey was on a cruise we called in a Kusadasi and Antalya. The next year we decided to go to Turkey and perhaps look for a holiday home. We booked the Letoonia for a week. The second day we were taken out by an Estate Agency saw some houses and decided to buy one in Calis, we went back to the Office and started the procedure to buy. We always make instant decisions. That was 12 years ago.
We liked Letoonia, but we would not go back to an A.I. There have been programmes on T.V articles in the Newspapers and pieces on the internet that A.I's are the death knell for a lot of resorts as many are situated in remote locations well outside towns and have everything people need to stay inside. I suppose if people are paying £1,000 each (as in a lot of A.I's) and their food is included why would they want to pay more to eat out. We recently spoke to a restaurant owner in Calis who expressed his worry about A.I's. He said he used to do 36 Breakfast per day and now he is lucky to do 6. These are his words not mine.
There was a programme on T.V that showed a town in Spain where Thomson's had a big resort on the outskirts. The town was dying with lots of restaurants and shops closing. Thomson's had so many complaints from the local government that they started running free buses into the town and offered discount vouchers for the establishments there.
I have read on T.A many times about the A.I's around Oludeniz and the members saying once there you have everything you need and do not need to leave, lots advise one trip into Oludeniz to see the shops.
The JIva Beach is not remote and it is good that people leave to visit the local restaurants. Glad to hear it.
I would say it is only my love for Calis that makes me worry that too many A.I's would really start to take it's toll on the place.
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I personally would not choose an AI in Turkey, and possibily not anywhere else, but could never say, never! I think there is a place for AI hotels, families do want these sometimes and if my daughters wanted to stay in one with their children and I was invited, would I say no? Of course not!
I am a bit surprised that a restaurant in Calis is saying he did 36 breakfasts before but now only does 6, most hotels are BB anyway. Does he mean English breakfasts? I guess so. Bit sad anyway I always feel if people are in another country and want full English, but each to their own!
Jiva is very well situated and I don't think, overpriced for a good AI. I am sure I will be told if this is not the case!
Sensatori is much further out, but there are buses to get into town and also a boat that goes from the resort to near the main square in Fethiye. You cannot force people to move out though if they don't want to.
There are some AI hotels in the Oludeniz resort itself, I do think that people would probably venture out from those as they are very central. The resort/holiday village that used to be called Lykia World but is now Liberty, is a way out. But this has been there for around 25 years and was a FB resort, not AI for many years. I am not sure now what board basis this resort is offered on.
But, if people are choosing to come to Turkey,I, for one am very glad they are, whatever type of hotel or accommodation they are using.
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we have ahouse in turkey but i give the wife abreak with an al for a few days
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What a lovely hubby you are Bob ;)
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Yes, we usually go somewhere for a few days when we are over. However, we also usually only have breakfast and perhaps lunch at our place and eat out most nights... Well IMHO we have to support the local restaurants and make sure we give them some business and even though we are in our own place in Turkey, we are still on holiday. Who wants to cook every night on holiday?
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We have our own place in Hisaronu .. and visit it 6 months of the year.. we `eat in` most nights and eat out about once every 7 / 8 days... reason being, we dont want to, and also too expensive.
When we used to go to our place for only a few weeks in a year, we ate out every night.. thats the difference :D
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Sleuth, The diference is, we are on holiday for 4-5 weeks. However, your are living there for 6 months. Big difference, between holidays and residence.
If we made a choice to live abroad for 6 month per year, we also would not eat out every night... We would just get the staff to cook for us ;) ;D : :)
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I maybe wrong but I don't think that sleuth actually said that they stayed for 6 months at a time.
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yes, 6 months of the year
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We stayed 6 weeks last year and ate out a lot less (pro rata) than when we stay a fortnight.
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Same here Stoop we would be fed up with the same old menu every night for 6 weeks, a lot of the restaurants have more or less the same things on offer with a bot of deviation here and there...we quite like cooking some nights...
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Thinking of booking a couple of nights back end of May but not sure what room to book don't want the attic or the swim up rooms what else would be recommended
Thanks in advance
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We booked our stay thru booking.com where it gives you the choice of rooms.Defo wouldnt have a swim up rm ur in such close proximity to ur neighbours and the pool bit does not go anywhere...i think we just opted for a standard double room wen booking, both times we were happy with our room comfy beds werent in the room much to be honest literally just sleeping and showering ;)
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Thanks looked at booking .com and emailed the hotel directly the hotel where £6 dearer I like to try to make sure the money goes directly in to the local economy so if I do book it will be direct especially when there's not that much difference
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Tell the Hotel that you had a cheaper offer and can they beat it...bet they will.
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Thanks looked at booking .com and emailed the hotel directly the hotel where £6 dearer I like to try to make sure the money goes directly in to the local economy so if I do book it will be direct especially when there's not that much difference
In the uk nicking.com charge hotels and guest houses 17% on each booking.
I've stopped using them and now go direct to the hotel. I usually check the prices and what's on offer first. Most will respond favourably if you email them.
We paid the same price direct as we would have with nicking.com in London on NYE. However we got a full eat all you can English thrown in by going direct. £17 each saved.
I won't use them again after they managed to mess up our New Year's Eve booking. We booked a 2 bed apartment back in May for £400 and it was mysteriously cancelled about six weeks before we were due to go.
They told us the owner had stopped renting it yet when I checked later I could book from 2nd Jan no problem. I think they just realised they could get more money than we paid. Nicking.com weren't interested in helping us at all. They've lost all my business from then on an to be honest you can do better direct.
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I usually book all my hotels with Sunshine.co.uk including Jiva.
They always come out cheaper than everyone else and you only pay a £1 deposit meaning that should you find it cheaper, change your mind or the price drops you can cancel and only lose you £1.
They have used them for years and they have always been reliable.
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Oh yes I forgot about Sunshine they are fab, in fact I am now thinking maybe our booking for the Jiva was thru Sunshine oops...