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Title: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 06, 2017, 10:50:08 AM
There is advice being given on many website and F.B. Pages and T.A. about carrying a Passport as I.D. At all times.  People have been stopped by the Police and fined.

I have read it is the Law to carry a Passport  it is also on the U.K. Government Website. 
However, I note  on a number  F.B. Page (mainly for Hisaronu) the  same Tour Operator is telling everyone that  they don't need to carry their passports, they only need a copy of their passports and not to bring passports on Jeep Safari's

Although it is said it is the law in Turkey to carry passports, is it in writing anywhere?
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: kevin3 on April 06, 2017, 12:08:42 PM


   I have used colour copies without problems for 12 years , including Polis checks. I also use copies of my driving

   license to rent cars ect,l
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 06, 2017, 12:12:40 PM
Yes, Kevin, for 12 years, however, things seemed to have been tightened up now, the law is, copies are not accepted. Perhaps the law may be have been bent, in the past. but I have also read of people being fined 400TL for not carrying a passport.  One guy on T.A was taken to the Police Station.
We also only ever carried copies of our passports in the past.  However, will carry passports from now on. 
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: KKOB on April 06, 2017, 12:28:06 PM
Tour Operator is telling everyone that  they don't need to carry their passports, they only need a copy of their passports and not to bring passports on Jeep Safari's

Although it is said it is the law in Turkey to carry passports, is it in writing anywhere?

It's always been the law that citizens and visitors to Turkey must carry some form of photo ID. In the past it hasn't been enforced particularly strongly for tourists in resorts. However, since the implementation of the State of Emergency, it wouldn't be wise to be stopped by a Polis or Jandarma officer without at least a photocopy of your passport on you. If you were to be arrested and / or fined you'd get little help from the FCO because you've chosen to ignore their well-publicised advice.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: legless on April 06, 2017, 14:19:58 PM
I was informed last year to  carry my passport/driving licence whilst in Turkey, A couple of days of days later I was pulled into a police checkpoint at the top of the hill going into Hisaronu, guess what they wanted my passport as ID.
I did have a photocopy which was acceptable to them     
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: catsrus on April 06, 2017, 15:48:15 PM
I carry a translated and notarised copy of my passport and my RP, touch wood never been stopped.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Highlander on April 06, 2017, 16:22:27 PM
I won't be carrying my passport around with me.

We have made credit card sized copies and will carry these with us just as we did last year.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: kayakebab on April 06, 2017, 17:48:06 PM
We carry ours at all times now.  Several people been fined, some have got away with just a residency card ID.
Under a state of emergency we're told its law so we're doing it.



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Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Diverbaz 1 on April 06, 2017, 18:18:24 PM

Always carry ours now as we were advised at start of state of emergency. Have heard reports of fines being given for not having passport when stopped at check point at top of Ovacik hill.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: JohnF on April 06, 2017, 18:19:46 PM
Contrary to before, I now always carry my passport in Istanbul.  Seen folks being detained for not having sufficient ID - no idea if they are fined, but not a pleasant experience methinks.

JF
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 06, 2017, 20:16:53 PM
I always find it odd that people are so scared of carrying a passport, yet they feel responsible enough to carry a wallet or a purse, credit cards, phones, cameras, money, with no problem, but as soon as a passport is mentioned they don't feel responsible and are terrified of losing it.
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Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: faymoore on April 06, 2017, 20:50:11 PM
I always find it odd that people are so scared of carrying a passport, yet they feel responsible enough to carry a wallet or a purse, credit cards, phones, cameras, money, with no problem, but as soon as a passport is mentioned they don't feel responsible and are terrified of losing it.
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I agree Jacqui.
I carry mine all the time whilst we are in Turkey...but each to there own, I guess.

I actually prefer to keep it about my person as apposed to leaving it in the property.

Dave.



Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Ian_and_Sian on April 07, 2017, 11:38:09 AM
I always find it odd that people are so scared of carrying a passport, yet they feel responsible enough to carry a wallet or a purse, credit cards, phones, cameras, money, with no problem, but as soon as a passport is mentioned they don't feel responsible and are terrified of losing it.
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My guess is that things are a lot more complicated if losing a passport - bank cards can be cancelled easily, money (though a pain to lose) can be replaced but, losing a passport means consulates, ID checks, emergency documents, delays to travel, etc.

That said, thanks to all who have highlighted this - we're coming back over next week and it has prompted me to get paper copies and scans on our phones of both our passports and visas, which we wouldn't have done otherwise!
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: WordBird on April 07, 2017, 12:26:59 PM
As others have said, it's law due to the state of emergency and if you take the risk you may be lucky or you may not.

One English friend was fined for not having her passport with her, even though she had a photocopy AND her residence permit in her bag, and then accompanied home by the jandarma so they could see the original.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 07, 2017, 12:39:45 PM
I always find it odd that people are so scared of carrying a passport, yet they feel responsible enough to carry a wallet or a purse, credit cards, phones, cameras, money, with no problem, but as soon as a passport is mentioned they don't feel responsible and are terrified of losing it.
.

My guess is that things are a lot more complicated if losing a passport - bank cards can be cancelled easily, money (though a pain to lose) can be replaced but, losing a passport means consulates, ID checks, emergency documents, delays to travel, etc.

That said, thanks to all who have highlighted this - we're coming back over next week and it has prompted me to get paper copies and scans on our phones of both our passports and visas, which we wouldn't have done otherwise!


Bank Cards can be cancelled?   Posts in the last few years have shown they are not cancelled quick enough due to problems getting through to Banks and money has been take from cards stolen in the local area. Then the people concerned have to go through a whole pile of hassle to get their money back.   Paper money lost cannot be replaced.  An emergency passport can be obtained from the British Consulate in Fethiye, also if you have a paper copy to show, you would have less of a problem I imagine.

We have been on cruises in the last couple of years and have been told we must carry our passport when leaving the ship in certain countries, copies are not acceptable.  We took our passports and credit cards and phones and my ipad and we managed not to loose any of them,  even in Russia for two days and we were on the Metro in St.Peterburg.  After this, I think we will manage to carry our passports in Calis and Fethiye... We are fearless.    ;) ;D :P
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Ian_and_Sian on April 07, 2017, 12:47:06 PM
I always find it odd that people are so scared of carrying a passport, yet they feel responsible enough to carry a wallet or a purse, credit cards, phones, cameras, money, with no problem, but as soon as a passport is mentioned they don't feel responsible and are terrified of losing it.
.

My guess is that things are a lot more complicated if losing a passport - bank cards can be cancelled easily, money (though a pain to lose) can be replaced but, losing a passport means consulates, ID checks, emergency documents, delays to travel, etc.

That said, thanks to all who have highlighted this - we're coming back over next week and it has prompted me to get paper copies and scans on our phones of both our passports and visas, which we wouldn't have done otherwise!


Bank Cards can be cancelled?   Posts in the last few years have shown they are not cancelled quick enough due to problems getting through to Banks and money has been take from cards stolen in the local area. Then the people concerned have to go through a whole pile of hassle to get their money back.   Paper money lost cannot be replaced.  An emergency passport can be obtained from the British Consulate in Fethiye, also if you have a paper copy to show, you would have less of a problem I imagine.

We have been on cruises in the last couple of years and have been told we must carry our passport when leaving the ship in certain countries, copies are not acceptable.  We took our passports and credit cards and phones and my ipad and we managed not to loose any of them,  even in Russia for two days and we were on the Metro in St.Peterburg.  After this, I think we will manage to carry our passports in Calis and Fethiye... We are fearless.     ;) ;D :P

I stand corrected, Jacqui! Just shows the gulf that can exist between a perception and reality!!
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: JohnF on April 07, 2017, 13:05:57 PM
As others have said, it's law due to the state of emergency and if you take the risk you may be lucky or you may not.

One English friend was fined for not having her passport with her, even though she had a photocopy AND her residence permit in her bag, and then accompanied home by the jandarma so they could see the original.

It's actually just the law.  The state of emergency has meant that ID checks are being carried out on a more regular basis and the degree of latitude (in respect of what's acceptable ID) that existed in tourist areas pre-coup attempt is no longer there.

My OH had a similar situation few years ago in Istanbul - she was taken back to the house to show them her passport and RP.  No fine but still a fairly unpleasant experience.

JF
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: jackstee on April 07, 2017, 18:44:16 PM
Just get your photo copy notarised
Cost 100 tl and lasts as long as your passport Easy no probs
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 07, 2017, 18:55:36 PM
Just get your photo copy notarised
Cost 100 tl and lasts as long as your passport Easy no probs

If you can carry a photocopy and not loose it, just carry your passport,  I cannot see what the problem is.??
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Stuart T on April 07, 2017, 20:17:17 PM
Wallet's not big enough to hold a passport.

Pockets in shirt or trousers squidge up a passport = bent/tatty after a very short while.

Photocopy (notarised) folded in wallet - no problem.

Plus, it's not a simple five minute job to replace a lost/stolen original passport.

I like the photocopy idea.

Passport in safe.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Highlander on April 07, 2017, 20:27:42 PM
This is what I carry with me.


(https://s29.postimg.org/dibmppvub/jspassport.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dibmppvub/)
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: patrice on April 07, 2017, 20:31:07 PM
We always carry a copy of our passports  when abroad for the same reason .
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: KKOB on April 07, 2017, 21:00:48 PM
This is what I carry with me.


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Keeps the pickpockets away, eh ?  ;)
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Highlander on April 07, 2017, 21:42:56 PM
I always find it odd that people are so scared of carrying a passport, yet they feel responsible enough to carry a wallet or a purse, credit cards, phones, cameras, money, with no problem, but as soon as a passport is mentioned they don't feel responsible and are terrified of losing it.
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The difference surely is that I cannot use a copy of my credit cards, phone, camera or money but a copy of my passport may suffice.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: kayakebab on April 07, 2017, 21:43:36 PM
But the rule right now is to carry your original full travel document.
Not a photocopy, however prettily laminated it is  ;)
 

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Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 07, 2017, 21:48:01 PM
Well people have been told a copy will not do, but they insist that is what they are going to carry.. I give up.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Highlander on April 07, 2017, 21:58:21 PM
Fortunately, I think there maybe enough room in my budgie smugglers to accommodate my full passport when I go down the beach :-)
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Scunner on April 07, 2017, 23:11:31 PM
Not entirely sure about that


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Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Highlander on April 07, 2017, 23:21:27 PM
Why did I EVER think that would not be your response  :-[

However, I should tell you that I have found that pair of socks that i had misplaced  :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: KKOB on April 08, 2017, 08:30:37 AM
Did the budgie survive ?
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 08, 2017, 09:41:06 AM
This on a F.B. Turkey Forum today.
"4 days ago Turkey  launched operation "Huzur Turkey-4" checking peoples documents on the streets across the country including 150 police officers in the Fethiye province , in one evening 13,000 people were checked and verified which shows how hard turkey is working to keep everyone safe in there beautiful country which highlights the needs off everyone visiting to carry passports at all times or you will be risking a fine."
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Colwyn on April 08, 2017, 09:54:15 AM
This is what I carry with me.


(https://s29.postimg.org/dibmppvub/jspassport.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dibmppvub/)
That's handy. I'll use that one in future. Bound to get away with it since nobody looks like their passport photo - well known fact.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Scunner on April 08, 2017, 10:11:50 AM
This on a F.B. Turkey Forum today.
"4 days ago Turkey  launched operation "Huzur Turkey-4" checking peoples documents on the streets across the country including 150 police officers in the Fethiye province , in one evening 13,000 people were checked and verified which shows how hard turkey is working to keep everyone safe in there beautiful country which highlights the needs off everyone visiting to carry passports at all times or you will be risking a fine."

Because terrorists never have passports
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Colwyn on April 08, 2017, 10:52:19 AM
Because terrorists never have passports
They'll all be carrying Highlander's passport now he's published it. The world will be full of Jihadi Johns.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 08, 2017, 10:55:25 AM
How about everyone brave enough to publish their passport photo?   It is true that most people do no look like themselves.  Phil took off his glasses and now if he goes through the automatic check, like the one in Manchester, it never accepts his picture.  He always has a few tries and then goes to the desk.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Scunner on April 08, 2017, 11:18:42 AM

They'll all be carrying Highlander's passport now he's published it. The world will be full of Jihadi Johns.

What a thought. Thank God for the State of Emergency.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Dennis Vint on April 09, 2017, 14:23:44 PM
Last report on Highlander's budgie was that it had survived and grown into a cock!   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: bewva on April 09, 2017, 16:06:03 PM
I'd heard it was like a cock but smaller.  ;D
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Stuart T on April 09, 2017, 17:39:40 PM
Slanderous!

You'll be up before the beak in no time.

Won't rustle Highlander's feathers - he doesn't give a flock.

I know - I'll get my hat, my coat.........
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Stuart T on April 09, 2017, 17:43:28 PM
I think I may be wrong (as per blooming usual).

Slander is spoken, I believe. Libel is the written bit but it didn't fit in with the punnification.

Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: stoop on April 09, 2017, 18:39:42 PM
How about everyone brave enough to publish their passport photo?   It is true that most people do no look like themselves.  Phil took off his glasses and now if he goes through the automatic check, like the one in Manchester, it never accepts his picture.  He always has a few tries and then goes to the desk.

Maybe he should take his glasses off when being checked  ;)
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 09, 2017, 21:22:51 PM
He has tried that and for some reason it does not work.  The guys have told him to take them off and try again.
I always find I am waiting for him and am always told "No waiting here go outside".
I kept my glasses on for my passport photo and have no problems.  He was advised to take his off for the photo.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Fran on April 22, 2017, 16:18:31 PM
My husband got stopped by the police today whilst riding his bike. They asked him if he was Turkish when he said no English they just said walked away. Didn't ask for any id.


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Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Scunner on April 22, 2017, 16:24:53 PM
And that was in Newcastle
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 22, 2017, 16:54:13 PM
I came home from the Supermarket and still had a security tag on an item I had bought, the girl did not remove it at the counter and the alarm did not go off at the exit.   However, this is not to say this will happen all the time.
Just like getting stopped by the Police, you could be lucky and not be asked for your I.D. However, you may not be so lucky... Moral of the story, do not try to pinch alcohol from the supermarket and always carry your passport and visa in Turkey.   ;D   ;) :  :) :angel:
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: KKOB on April 22, 2017, 18:00:34 PM
They asked him if he was Turkish when he said no English they just said walked away.

"No English" seems to work quite well in the UK now.
Title: Re: Carrying a Passport.
Post by: Fran on April 22, 2017, 19:44:51 PM
Must remember to use a ,


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