I've already mentioned one in scunners tough on crime, see how many more there are, these happened a few years ago, a man went out a found someone breaking into his car, as it set off the owner slammed the door, breaking the thiefs arm, the owner got done for assault. 2 men bought cars off a showroom forecourt, both were ringers(stolen cars)1 was told to give his back, the other was allowed to keep his cos he bought it in good faith, which one was bought by a copper? Alan