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Offline Highlander

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« on: April 09, 2011, 15:24:44 PM »
I have to say that I am absolutely shocked by the Scottish Ambulance Service today.

This poor fellow had a seizure right in front of me as I walked into Tesco.  Firstly, I have to say that the Tesco people perhaps could have reacted a little quicker when asked to phone an ambulance, but what happened there after was amazing. When they did get through the ambulance service asked a number of questions and the call lasted maybe two minutes.

The poor fellow's seizure lasted about three minutes before he became calm but he was still deadly white and his eyes were in a fixed gaze. His mother was shaking with the shock.

Approximately seven minutes after we had called for the ambulance, a Tesco's lady appeared carrying a phone. It was the Ambulance Service who wanted to ask even more questions. They wanted to speak to the fellow's mother who was in no condition herself to be thinking coherently.

I reckon it was fully 20 mintues from the time the fellow collapsed till the time the first responder
arrived in a car.

But the most amazing part of the episode was yet to come.  The ambulance finally arrived with it's blues and two's go full blast, a full 45 minutes and more had pasted since the chap's seizure began.

Thank God, the emergency services at Glasgow Airport reacted quicker (within three minutes in fact.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2011, 17:09:58 PM »
I wonder if the Tesco staff did phone an ambulance or simply NHS24.

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2011, 17:23:57 PM »
A couple of years ago, I was in the middle of a lesson (teaching) and one of my students looked a little poorly.  Iasked if she was ok and she thought she was.  Couple of minutes later she asked if I'd ring an ambulance. As she had a heart condition anyway, we rang 999 and waited.....and waited.  After 10 minutes we rang back to be told that it was on it's way.  Another 10 mins and I rang again to be told that the ambulance had to come from Taunton - 20 miles away; we cancelled and I had her in my car and took her to A&E - 3 mins away.  The nurse at the hosp wouldn't help me get her out of the car because of H&S regs.  

Luckily, the person's still with us but no thanks to the emergency services on that day.

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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2011, 17:26:44 PM »
Hi Highlander, I've been in the fire service for 25 years and what happens in our emergency service (at least up to now) is that while the control operator is talking on the phone, they have already pressed the required buttons on their computer to turn out the nearest fire appliance to the incident address. They still however keep the caller on the phone to try to get as much information about the incident as they can possibly gleen to aid the crews who are en route, things like;
Where the fire is
Are there people in the house/building
Which room are the people in (if known or seen at a window)
If it's a car crash, how many vehicles, and if poss how many casualties
If someone trapped somewhere ie in machinery at work etc. are they conscious and breathing.

As I said, the fire engines are already en route while this is going on and the control operator passes the information gathered by radio to the crews.

Now that is because we don't prioritise calls, every call gets a full attendance to the particular incident type without delay. The ambulance service however, because of cuts and more cuts, DO prioritise calls and they ask a million questions because they want to know what type of ambulance to send, and at what point on the call list your particular will end up.

At the moment, the fire service is going through a similar round of massive cuts on top of more cuts that have happened in the past, so it will not be too long before we see the same sort of thing happening with fire engines as you saw with that ambulance.

Sad really, but successive governments have been quite happy to cut these vital services because of the deficit caused by the greedy corporate money grabbing people and of course the greedy banks.

Oh, and they don't call them cuts, they call them "efficiency savings".

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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2011, 17:27:09 PM »
I did talk to a friend  who was working in the shop at the time and he said that it was not an isolated case and that he had personally experienced severe problems in getting the SAS to react to emergencies :o.

I wonder if the general public are aware of what seems to be common practice:(.

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2011, 17:48:41 PM »
Thanks for the detailed reply Mark.

However, I am still shocked that the ambulance service actually phoned back after such a long time. If they were prioritising and the case had been life threatening one, they would have lost vital, possibly fatal, time in the time it took them to phone back.:(




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