Breakfast at Kargi

[kevin3]

CleopatraAsp.   You are an animal lover, you are concerned, you live in the area.

Shouldn't you be investigating for yourself, for the animals sake, and perhaps reporting

your findings on this Forum instead of insulting others that are reporting their findings.??

[scorcher]

Kevin3. Where is the insult?

[karaokemark]

Jacqui has made a recommendation for a restaurant, if you have any issue with the place don't go. I personally think this is the best breakfast in the area. When I go again I will go for breakfast not to check on animals. When I shop in Primark  and places like that I don't ask how old the kids are working in the sweat shops are.

[ovacik2]

In our view this is a good traditional old family, yes past deeds were not acceptable  but don't condemn them out of hand ! Go look ask about your concerns then if you are happy eat one of the very best and traditional Yoruk kahvalti you can find! If you are not happy tell Enver your concerns and walk away

[ovacik2]

In our view this is a good traditional old family, yes past deeds were not acceptable  but don't condemn them out of hand ! Go look ask about your concerns then if you are happy eat one of the very best and traditional Yoruk kahvalti you can find! If you are not happy tell Enver your concerns and walk away

[CleopatrasAsp]

CleopatraAsp.   You are an animal lover, you are concerned, you live in the area.

Shouldn't you be investigating for yourself, for the animals sake, and perhaps reporting

your findings on this Forum instead of insulting others that are reporting their findings.??

Kevin I don't know why you have got your panties in a knot - I was neither rude nor insulting.  I wasn't disrespectful, I was just stating my opinion as to the manner in which her response to my comment was given.  With regard to Jacqui's glowing recommendation of the Kargi Museum I was merely presenting the other side of the coin.

[Scunner]

I struggle to know what this man should do. Whether we like it or not, some things we find unacceptable as Brits are acceptable in Turkey. We should accept many of them if we decide to spend time in other cultures.

Obviously not always and the treatment of animals is one such area. The guy could have had no idea he was doing anything wrong and the outcry from us foreigners may have come as a complete surprise.

I vowed not to go there because of the donkey situation - but surely he has done the right thing now and chosen to listen to the criticism.

If people damn him for the 'crime' and treat him the same when he puts it right, you may find people may not bother to put things right.

I have no idea who this man is, but give the guy a break for God's sake!

[Jacqui Harvey]

We had not been before and the donkey situation was in my mind.  We were very kindly invited and taken there by Jim and Helen Fraser.   We found the family who run the business very nice people.  We had extremely quick service, food was put down about 2 minutes after we arrived. There is no menu, you just get the full breakfast.  We had the best service and when a dish was empty, we were asked if we wanted more, we also had bottled water and then glasses of pomegranate juice, the juice was topped up.  We started with a frying pan of 4 eggs and  then when this was finished we got a frying pan with an omelette.  As soon as we finished the table was cleared and tea and coffee served and then a big bowl of fruit.  The family gave us oranges and lemons when we left.   We had a great experience and we could not fault the restaurant in anyway.  Great food, great service, fabulous views. 
As I said we neither saw, heard or  smelled any donkeys and we did have a walk around the place and up to the rental accommodation which has a pool.  We did not go behind the restaurant so cannot comment about that.  There was no donkey milk advertised.
I care very much about animals and hope there are no hidden donkeys. All the livestock we did see IMHO were in good condition.
I agree with Scunner, give the guy a break. He and his family have a living to make.  He made a mistake, but cannot keep being punished for it. 

[kayakebab]

The mistake was made, he put his hands up and said he is restaurant man, not donkey man and was happy for them to be rehomed where we took them in Nif. They really were in a terrible condition.
He vowed he wouldn't have any more and admitted he had no idea how to care for them.
At that point I would have been happy to go back as many times as possible, it really is the best Turkish breakfast around.

When I saw the Land of Lights article about the donkey milk I was shocked and disappointed.
We went to see what was going on.
Once again these poor animals were in cramped conditions with long hooves, poor skin and the babies tethered so they couldn't reach their mothers milk.
I made the decision not to go back and stand by it.

I don't know how many he has now, the relevant people need to go and investigate.
There's a lot of things about the culture here that upset me, Kurban Bayram is one of them. I choose to stay indoors that day.
I know I have no possibility and no right to interfere with or change their culture., but doesn't mean I like it or want to be part of it.
Everyones free of course to go where they like and enjoy what they like, personally it's not for me.