complex bar closures

[Gorgeous_bird]

Just an observation CJ but when Anne originally asked for help all you could offer was that she hire a car and "go see" - now you seem to be full of worldly advice based on the fact that a friend stayed on a complex with a bar.

[captainjon]

So whats your point?

[Scunner]

"Just an observation", or did you think only you could make them [)]

[nichola]

I found this all very interesting and this problem is not confined to bar/restaurants on complexes. Many council officials are also land/hotel/restaurant/bar/shop owners or have family that are so have a vested interest in shutting down any competition.

I add these examples only to highlight that this is an endemic problem of jealousy, greed and nepotism.

Other examples
1. Landowners with hotels that have made a killing in this area selling their land and off plan aparts and villas now shop people for not paying tax when they rent out or let friends and family stay in the villas they sold.

They think these people should pay to stay in their hotel and don't like it that they don't. This is regardless of whether these people ever would have stayed in their hotel or not.

2. Many people I know including myself in the distant past who have rented an apart or villa long term often paying all the rent up front for a year sometimes two years have then been harassed and threatened sometimes physically by the landlord when they have guests to stay, again because the owner thinks these people should be paying to stay in their hotel.

3. Craft market closed down in Oludeniz because the shopkeepers didn't like the competition - now partially re-opened late in the season with plans to possibly extend again or close down again next year - the rumours are rife so it's any ones guess what will happen. Thirty families who relied on this market to survive all year around were completely screwed by the late notice of this closure just 3 weeks before the season started.

4. There is talk about the Hisaronu Monday market being made smaller because the shop keepers don't like the competition. These same shop owners marched in protest on the council when the little craft market in Hisaronu and the Oludeniz Craft market originally opened and kept up their campaign of opposition for the past 5 years until they finally got their way and both were closed.

5. Someone I know who does pool maintenance (properly, actually doing what they say they'll do even when the owners are abroad) has had work sabotaged more than once.

Anyway, good luck to anyone who takes on these people, I hope you win.

Nichola

[Scunner]

6. The idea that Calis promenade restaurants could look after the part of the beach in front of their establishment (i.e. keep it clean) in return for being able to serve drinks/remove local authority sunbeds was pretty much laughed at, using the logic that restaurants that don't front the beach can't have a bit of beach to look after and would object.

There can't be many worse places on the planet to have a business and expect to run it without dirty tricks - and it has little to do with whether you are foreign or not.

[stuart]

i  agree with you kieth whole heartedly about, little to do with whether you are foreign or not, too many expats understandably feel racially victimized when they fall foul of a legal discrepency but its not usually the case.

what i do know for sure is that local authorities have to have a very legitimate reason for closing down a bussiness otherwise they can taken to the courts themselves.

what i think is a great feather in turkeys cap in a round about way is bowing to democracy in the recent campaign uzumlu made against big bussiness and winning. well done firo and company bye the way!!

i was involved in a campaign in the uk of similar circumstances. but bigger and it was a total waste of time ....all the descissions had been made long before hand, behind closed doors,..... corruption, dirty tricks, smear campaigns etc. were the norm....public enquiries uk? a joke!!

right wheres the spell check??