Has Calis lost its appeal?

[number2]

Sorry Jolini, but i moved here 7 weeks ago, and i have seen the bins emptied more times in that time than i ever did in 12 mths in england, once a fortnight, and i paid £1200 for the privalage, i'd rather be where i am now. Alan

[Scunner]

quote:Originally posted by jolini


Perhaps with your rose coloured glasses on you cannot see it as is.

I think you will find (if you look) that although I am a great lover of Calis, nobody criticises it on certain matters more than me.

Apart from Crabbit of course.

I'll love it for what it is (and isn't) - I loved it so much I set up a website to tell the World about it! The fact still remains that you bought a property in a place that you consider to be "scruffy,dirty and downmarket"!

I'd suggest you had the 'rose tinted spectacles' when you made that decision!

Do you rent it out? I'd love to see how you describe Calis to potential customers - not "downmarket" I am sure. What did you tell friends and family? "We just spent loads of money on a villa in a scruffy downmarket place in Turkey"  

[pashka]

I have seen  the bin men pick up rubbish that has not been put in the bins and scrape up the last of the garden rubbish with two bits of cardboard.
Pashka

[AOK]

Calis has it's faults like everywhere else.But they are working on it.If everything was perfect you would pay £100k+ for a 2 bedroom Apartment and not £30- £50k at present.It's a case of 'work in Progress' .Fast forward 5 years and see how it looks .

[Kazzyber]

We have visted Calis twice and yes the beach could be better but the place more than makes up for it in other ways, the people, the excellent resturants etc.  Turkey in general does however seem to have an aversion to putting bins out for the general public to put their rubbish in - we were in Gocek and couldn't find one anywhere and had to ask a shopkeeper if my son could put his ice cream wrapper in his bin (which was inside the shop behind the counter).  I guess its a money thing but they could save money on cleaning if they put bins in place in the fist place.  All this said and done I love it there and would rather put up with a bit of rubbish than grumpy miserable people which I have encountered in other countries.

[Scunner]

Kazzyber,

Not money, most litter bins were removed due to security concerns following bombs and bomb scares in other parts of Turkey.

I understand the concern about rubbish here. Not like the UK at all. I used to travel a lovely 'cross country' route through the Buckingham countryside to my head office. Beautiful scenery, punctuated by lay bys crammed full of three piece suites and rusty fridges. Autumnal trees achieved a flash of colour by collecting escaping Tesco carrier bags.

[trainer]

I wonder how many supermarket trolleys you could find in Calis I bet its not as many as the little beck near me, walking past the other day and saw a Safeway trolley, but Safeway was taken over by Tesco over a year ago  

[Scunner]

Or food rotting in wheelie bins right outside your home for two weeks.

It was Morrison's by the way  

[Gorgeous_bird]

Beautiful scenery, punctuated by lay bys crammed full of three piece suites and rusty fridges. Autumnal trees achieved a flash of colour by collecting escaping Tesco carrier bags.

Scunner your quote above was a beautifully descriptive peice of prose. You should write for a living! Well I guess with 6,000 posts you already do.

We should love Turkey for what and how it is - not try to impose Western values upon the place. That is often easier said than done i know. I hate watching the dumper bin being emptied outside Green valley and watching the bin men pull out all the cardboard on top and throw it to one side. I have been known to chuck it back in the bin so that it is at the bottom. I hate that but i have to remind myself that this is not Northampton, this is Turkey - in Asia thousands of miles from home. And I love it!

[Crabbit]

quote:Originally posted by Gorgeous_bird

 I hate watching the dumper bin being emptied outside Green valley and watching the bin men pull out all the cardboard on top and throw it to one side. I have been known to chuck it back in the bin so that it is at the bottom.

They take the cardboard out because they recycle it.
If you had taken the time to notice, Turks and expats alike, leave said cardboard by the side of the bin, as a man with a barrow/trolley/pushbike etc will come along to pick it up.
They earn their living by doing this.
Consequently, by you putting it back in the bottom of the bin, you are depriving a Turkish family of food.

Crabbit