WARNING - Lee of Somine Kebap

[denniz]

Scunner>>Don't trust anyone you haven't known for a LONG time, don't assume anything
Lynne>>>NEVER EVER rent out an apartment to anyone without using your management company and doing everything properly
echostar>>>>i do think your part blame for not using a management company, because if you did we would not be reading this now

hi lynne,i am so sorry to hear of your woes and worry,i'm sure that this is all very frustrating and a financial nightmare for you and your family, your right to post it all on this forum,just a note in the vain attempt that all us renters in calis/fethiye don't get tarred with the same brush,i'm probably blowing my own trumpet but hey! i rented my apartment here in calis well over a year ago,i had never met my landlord before,we never used a managment company,everything was done on trust and a handshake,i have never missed a rent payment and the place is looked after,regards and good wishes
dennis

[Anne]

Denniz, you are most probably in the majority of renters in Calis or indeed anywhere but unfortunately there are scumbags the world over and it just so happens Lynne has been the vicitm on this occassion.
I'm sure no one is tarring all renters with the same brush but we do need to be aware of these people.  If Lynne had put up and shut up Lee would then be free to move on to his next prey.

[denniz]

hi anne,point taken,as i said lynne is right to give everyone a heads up,i was just trying to balance the negativity a bit,you know,one bad apple and all that.
dennis

[mike A]

Lynne. Posting it on the Forum was the right thing to do, if only to warn others.
Sominekebap has the right of reply and I for one would like to hear it.

Echostar, if your soapbox was a little taller you might be able to see more clearly.

[Mark G]

I agree that things like this must be put on the forum, just to show that they do happen from time to time and that there really are still people out there who would con people at the drop of a hat given an easy opportunity.

I also agree with scunner that from the moderator point of view it is a very difficult balancing act between allowing someone's name to be dragged throught the mud, and not publicising the negative as well as the positive.

This Lee chap now has every opportunity to come onto the forum and clear his name by proving that he has:

1. Paid Lynne the rent he promised he would pay when he took on the winter let.
2. Replaced all of the alcohol he and his family/friends drank which was not his.
3. Paid the solar heating company for the system that he had installed and agreed he would pay for.
4. Pays for the cleaning of the curtains and soft furnishings in Lynne's apartment that now smell of smoke since he and his friends/family obviously ignored the NO SMOKING requests while they stayed in the apartment.

Anything less than all of these points and Lynne is right to drag his name through the mud as he has indeed conned her and there is no easier way to put it.

[Scunner]

No intention to suggest that there aren't good honest people like yourself Dennis, I too believe a handshake should be as good as a contract. My views are just my own, and based on my experience it is expensive to put trust in people as we strive to keep faith that are still people like you.

[canalman]

Having had this situation explained by Lynne, it is obvious now that Lee (if he has access to the forum) should  explain himself for betraying someones trust so. If he is in a position to read this thread and does not reply, I then feel that he is admitting his guilt.
Pete

[incir]

What a nasty thing to have happen Lynne. Hope everything's ok when you get over to see for yourself.

[Twin Bee]

As I see it either Lynne or Lee have inpuned another CBF member by using the forum to either exploit the other for money and services or by making false accusations about an honest person.
The one who is so far silent on this issue was always quick to use the forum to defend their business/workplace, while the other person appears open and willing to present facts. No doubt moderators have thought carefully about how best to respond, but it sits uncomfortably with me if the forum is used to exploit members for money and services in this way.

[Scunner]

Knowing you as I do Stuart, I appreciate you are like me in that you too like healthy debate. So you won't mind me asking a fairly intellectual question. What does your post mean?