Hi to all - just come back to this thread to catch up and all I can say is WOW!!!
Alan - my hat goes off to you for being the No1 in Sales Prevention and also Customer Service Failure as well as Best Poor Financial Advisor. You really do know how to give good vibes for people to 'move' their business to you.
And to cap it all off - have you seen the Hisaronu.co.uk forum site -
Looks as if Alan has been really selling his services well at a Nics site called Lavina (below is a copy of email sent to me with copy from Hisaronu site)
"What I forgot to include in my mail to you was about what happened when I had a meeting with Nicholas. I heard the Joint MD was visiting from the UK (Alan Swain - runs the Uk side) and that he was keen on improving efficiency. Well as thats my area I was very pleased to meet him. However the pleasure ended quickly. He is an accountant and made it very clear he is not interested in anything but money. He quickly went over the Lavina accounts and got to the 2007 debt and explained that as its a Lavina debt, the Lavina owners must pay it. He wasnt interested in the concept that it was Nichols Homes (Emlak) who owed the money as he claimed he had no connection with them. We owe we pay thats as far as he would even consider. In short he was an pig of a guy, and I for one want nothing to do with him. He explained that he was setting up a new company of which he would be the sole owner and the M&M business would be transferred into it, whether we like it or not. Once he owned it he would run it from the UK on proper financial footings (using existing Turkish staff like Heather). As far as I see it we have M&M contracts with Nicholas Emlak, not his newscam company (which he seems to be using to offload all Nicholas Homes debts). When he sets up this new business (proposed for January) I want nothing to do with it, and would strongly suggest we as a group talk to other companies, after all there=2 0are lots of them here (2 staff left Nicholas last year to set up 2 similar companies, and I'm told one is rather good at it).
During our discussion he made very derogatory comments about Nicholas, which I have sent to Nurettin for comment/clarification, but he hasnt replied:
On the build quality: you buy cheap you cannot expect quality. It would cost £50 to nail the tiles on the roof, but you wont pay so they fall off. You can have a new roof for £1800, and a good one too (through M&M of course)
Of the staff: they are semi illiterate
Of Nicholas Homes: so what if they go bust it wouldnt affect me (the M&M company)
Dont quote me on the exactness of the quotes, but I do have the correct wording as used in a letter to Nurettin, just not to hand at this instant.
When I see Nicholas later this week I'll tell them once again, any costs prior to my ownership are nothing to do with me, they must be the responsibility of the owner at the time ie Nicholas Homes.
My take on the whole scenario is that Nicholas continue to be very strapped for cash. They are 2 months behind in paying the staff. I suspect they are preparing themselves for a possible bankrupcy and splitting the company accordingly. If by doing so they can raise cash by passing their debts onto others so much the better (for them). Hence the accountant rules. As a very minimum I think if we decide to continue using Nicholas for M&M we need to be sure our money, which is paid in advance, doesnt dissapear with any crash. It needs to be held independently or bonded, or preferably paid in arrears."
