Catching Criminals in Calis

[loz]

Crimes ARE being reported and the police Do know, just because the CBF police have not been informed does not mean that the "real authorities" have not, business owners do know what is happening also, yet many like to say they have not heard anything to play the matters down.

Last year Gordon and pals were stopped by the police and Jandarma from leaving a bar to go home (yes I know what a great excuse..lol) because there was an almighty street fight where over 100 locals turned to sort out a "problem" yes it was very very violent, but ask a bar owner from the "wooden" bridge to the roundabout what happened and they all suffer from amnesia, no this was not a one off.

[Twin Bee]

I can't believe some of the responses to my question!!
Keith it is unfair for you to suggest I have even considered that crime in Calis is like the Bronx - where do you get that from?
All I have asked is that, and with out trying to be alarmist, is crime in Calis increasing and to ask if anyone has been prosecuted and what punishments did they get.
Also you know I have very strongly argued that people should report crimes to the police. My impression based on the threads I have read here on CBF is that more people are reporting burgalaries to the police but I would like to know if people are caught and are they prosecuted and punished. Also are these people 'named and shamed in the local press so others can know who they are.
I have also suggested that Turkish people in Calis must know who some of the local 'riff-raff' are and I queried whether they inform the authorities of suspicious activity or give them information about peolple aquiring 'goods' without working for them.  
Actually in the UK a lot of crime reduction is done by non-police and this reflects the local communities concerns.
I wonder if this is something Turkey could learn from. Maybe more 'security' type staff in and around the bars might help.
And Highlander what relevance is it whether crime in my area is increasing and why ask if I have done anything about it. To answer the first question some crime where I live is increasing and some is decreasing. I think your question about what I do about it is designed to trip me up. Is it?
If you are hoping for me to say I don't do anything then you are wrong. But the key question you should have asked is do I do anything about crime in home town against other nationals and do I help other nationals living in my community feel safer and secure. Put it this way I don't ignore it.
The other issue is my local newspaper and our local TV do report crimes against foreign nationals and there are people in the wider community activley seeking solutions to the problem. Does the local Turkish paper in Calis report these problems.
As I said I don't know what happens in Calis. I do know some CBF members have tried to get the authorities to be more aware of
that allegedly more crime is happening in Calis more frequently.  But can I feel confident the ordinary citizen in Calis cares if apartments are burguled and that mostly (young) women are sexaully assaulted when walking out and about and people are mugged at cash points - well no not yet but can someone convince me they do.

[tinkerman]

Why don't you put all your questions to the Police?

[Highlander]

quote:Originally posted by Twin Bee


And Highlander what relevance is it whether crime in my area is increasing and why ask if I have done anything about it. To answer the first question some crime where I live is increasing and some is decreasing. I think your question about what I do about it is designed to trip me up. Is it.

But can I feel confident the ordinary citizen in Calis cares if apartments are burguled and that mostly (young) women are sexaully assaulted when walking out and about and people are mugged at cash points - well know not yet but can someone convince me they do.

No it wasn't TB - the reason I asked was because I am puzzled at what you want "the Turkish people" to do.

I have to say that I consider it totally disingenious of you to question if the ordinary citizen of Calis cares about crime in the area. OF COURSE THEY DO ! in just the same way as the vast majority of the ordinary citizens of your and my area do.

[Diverbaz 1]

TB, I live here, it is nothing like YOU are trying to portray.

It may be like where you live but not here.

[Twin Bee]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner


....but here I read that to ask someone in Turkey to report criminal activity is "victimising" the victim. Something is wrong.

No Keith don't try and discredit me please. You know that I have urged people on CBF to report crime. But it takes courage and not everyone has the courage needed. It is just that sometimes you and others, intentionally or otherwise, give the impression that by not reporting crime these victims are responsible for similar crime continuing. THEY ARE NOT.
In my view the local community in Calis has a duty and a responsibility to reduce crime, catch criminals, prosecute them and punish them. I just wonder if this is happening. It would be good if someone could confirm this was the case.

[tinkerman]

[Highlander]

quote:Originally posted by Twin Bee

Originally posted by Scunner

In my view the local community in Calis has a duty and a responsibility to reduce crime, catch criminals, prosecute them and punish them. I just wonder if this is happening. It would be good if someone could confirm this was the case.

TB. You keep hammering on about "the local community" as in the quote above.

Please explain to me what you want a law abiding local citizen, who hasn't witnessed a crime, to do. How, in exact and precise terms, do you expect that person to discharge "his duty" and fulfil his/her responsibility to reduce crime etc etc.

[Twin Bee]

The local community consists of citizens, businesses, organizations, public authorities and local media. I thought you knew that H.  
I am only suggesting crime has increased in Calis based on CBF reports during the past season - you are in denial Diverbaz if you come to a different conclusion!

[Highlander]

quote:Originally posted by Twin Bee

The local community consists of citizens, businesses, organizations, public authorities and local media. I thought you knew that H.  

Indignant retort about knowing what "local community" meant deleted

TB You complain about people not answering your questions. Would you mind answering mine.....

Please explain to me what you want a law abiding local citizen, who hasn't witnessed a crime, to do. How, in exact and precise terms, do you expect that person to discharge "his duty" and fulfil his/her responsibility to reduce crime etc etc.