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Offline Scunner

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« Reply #90 on: December 29, 2009, 00:13:24 AM »
Your main claim is that the owners of the rented out properties won't be charged because it is a poor area and they can't pay. These landlords own (even at a measly 35k per apartment) A MILLION POUNDS worth of property. Yes, you may be right, the Belediye will probably let these poor people off.



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« Reply #91 on: December 29, 2009, 00:21:35 AM »
Exactly!!

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« Reply #92 on: December 29, 2009, 00:23:28 AM »
No I was being sarcastic.

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« Reply #93 on: December 29, 2009, 00:34:44 AM »

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No I was being sarcastic.


We will have to agree to differ in opinion on this.
all I want to know is why haven't the amounts to be paid been published in the local press, and why haven't bills been sent out.That way everyone can see that the monies are being collected justly and fairly. At the moment everyone is being quoted different amounts regardless of the size of their property.
The council should ensure that All property owners pay regardless of whether they rent out their properties or not.

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« Reply #94 on: December 29, 2009, 00:53:49 AM »
If you go to the Belediye offices they will confirm how much you need to pay. You did that and were told 480 YTL. I am not the defender of Turkish fair play, indeed I could tell tales of corruption that would quite possibly horrify you. Now, if the story was that the clerk didn't tell you about the 25% discount for early payment, I would believe it. I would believe that clerks don't tell non-Turkish speaking people about this. I would suspect they might well take your 480 YTL, stick 360 in the till and 120 in their pocket. It's wrong but it wouldn't surprise me one tiny bit. Not being able to speak the language makes you weak. Understanding what needs to be paid is YOUR responsibility, not theirs. You have evidence to back up your ludicrous funding scandal theory here there and everywhere - comparisons that cement your beliefs even more; but your evidence is total rubbish. The man who pays the same as you with the "huge duplex" technically has the same as you really, a one floor apartment with a roof space. The people who have a massive apartment who pay less than you probably have a much lower value on their tapu.

You see for me, there is no story over there you can tell me about corrupt people that I could never believe. The problem is you have concocted a conspiracy theory that involves the entire Belediye budget being approved and passed based on mathematics that charge only foreigners - and that is something you must have dreamt up in cloud cuckoo land.

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« Reply #95 on: December 29, 2009, 00:56:50 AM »
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The council should ensure that All property owners pay regardless of whether they rent out their properties or not.



They do. You refuse to believe it though.


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« Reply #96 on: December 29, 2009, 01:28:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Scunner

If you go to the Belediye offices they will confirm how much you need to pay. You did that and were told 480 YTL. I am not the defender of Turkish fair play, indeed I could tell tales of corruption that would quite possibly horrify you. Now, if the story was that the clerk didn't tell you about the 25% discount for early payment, I would believe it. I would believe that clerks don't tell non-Turkish speaking people about this. I would suspect they might well take your 480 YTL, stick 360 in the till and 120 in their pocket. It's wrong but it wouldn't surprise me one tiny bit. Not being able to speak the language makes you weak. Understanding what needs to be paid is YOUR responsibility, not theirs. You have evidence to back up your ludicrous funding scandal theory here there and everywhere - comparisons that cement your beliefs even more; but your evidence is total rubbish. The man who pays the same as you with the "huge duplex" technically has the same as you really, a one floor apartment with a roof space. The people who have a massive apartment who pay less than you probably have a much lower value on their tapu.

You see for me, there is no story over there you can tell me about corrupt people that I could never believe. The problem is you have concocted a conspiracy theory that involves the entire Belediye budget being approved and passed based on mathematics that charge only foreigners - and that is something you must have dreamt up in cloud cuckoo land.


If that is the case WHY are so many people over here unhappy about the way the Belediye have handled this tax.Are we all living in 'cloud cuckoo land'? I have not concocted a conspiracy theory...there are so many different opinions posted here on this forum, people can make their own minds up.
As I have said before Mr Scunner...You have your opinion and I have mine, and every other person on this forum has the power to draw their own conclusion as to what is going on here in Turkey. Every person will make up their own mind. At the end of the day people will either pay it or not.
I do take exception to your attitude towarsd me. Your views are your views and I am entitled to my opinion...or am I?

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« Reply #97 on: December 29, 2009, 01:33:34 AM »
Yes, having different opinions does help a good argument. There's no need to take exception to my attitude towards you, it's not personal. I think you are entirely wrong but I'd argue with any of the 6000 members who held the same opinion as you. If we all agreed, CBF would be rubbish.

Goodnight  :)

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« Reply #98 on: December 29, 2009, 02:10:53 AM »
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Originally posted by Scunner

Yes, having different opinions does help a good argument. There's no need to take exception to my attitude towards you, it's not personal. I think you are entirely wrong but I'd argue with any of the 6000 members who held the same opinion as you. If we all agreed, CBF would be rubbish.

Goodnight  :)


Agreed. I love a good argument.
Goodnight.  ;)

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« Reply #99 on: December 29, 2009, 06:38:48 AM »
Can I just point out again that we were told the tax was based on the VALUE of your property on your tapu not the size.  
The tax applies to all property owners.  
Bills showing a breakdown are being sent out, they had reached 8000, where we live was  36,000th on the list.  
Fatih (Turkish) was told he would have to pay as well.
We are going to take tapus belonging to other owners (at their request) to the tax office, it will be interesting to see if the officials still give us the same information.




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