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« Reply #240 on: April 29, 2010, 15:52:31 PM »
Not at the minute peecee!  Seems its out of order - awaiting more info!



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« Reply #241 on: April 29, 2010, 18:06:52 PM »
Can I ask everyone to hold fire on this for a few days.

A lot of information has come to light in the past few days and there are a number of things being worked on and some actions that need to be taken here on the ground.

However I am sure you are all aware the enemy is watching.

It doesn't make sense to inform them at this crucial stage of our next moves. We will be working hard over the next few days to pull a number of things together and then we will share what needs to be done.

For now this movement is going underground...  ;)

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« Reply #242 on: April 29, 2010, 21:59:09 PM »
Nik - if you need undercover agents in the UK ...just shout if there is anything we can do  (Mr Pookie is dusting off his old mac as we speak....) xx

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« Reply #243 on: April 29, 2010, 22:51:33 PM »
Does anyone know what has happened to the Free the Oludeniz Dolphins FB Group[?]

I tried to access several times earlier the link showing nearly 4000 members and couldn't and now I still can't access and the link on my FB page shows it as having no members...!!!

Has the plug been pulled[?]

Can someone find out from the creator what has happened[?]

Might need Mr Pookie and his Mac over here  ;)

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« Reply #244 on: April 29, 2010, 22:54:58 PM »
Ok - its back - my mind was working overtime then!!!

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« Reply #245 on: April 29, 2010, 23:14:11 PM »
Facebook page for 'Free the Dolphins at Hisaronou' is still Ok - also there is a thread on Trip advisor as well but both are a very quiet!!
Don't think people know what they can do next!!
We are all anxious to get it stopped but if contact numbers, fax numbers, e mail addresses are being closed down as soon as they are posted obviously someone is watching and reporting.
No wonder it is going undercover Nicola!!

I just keep sending repeat e mails!  

Don't know what else to do at the moment!

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« Reply #246 on: April 30, 2010, 00:10:28 AM »
I know people have had trouble with this web site before but it is still open. If you haven't already or know others that will please add your name and encourage others to do the same.

This information is now being used as part of the case so it is all still very relevant.

Online petition 2868 signatures so far
http://yasamhakkinasaygi.com/dilekce/dilekce_detay.asp?id=329&DURUM=2

Its all very undercover now Lin dark glasses  8) and headscarves oh and old Macs :D

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« Reply #247 on: April 30, 2010, 00:24:51 AM »
Hope nobody is FLASHING Nichola - only the journalists, protest groups whatever!!
Let us know where to send the pics!!
Can everyone get every member of their family, relatives, friends or anyone you know to sign this!  As long as they add their name (They can even use your e mail address to add their name)
Obviously this is needed - It is the Turkish petition site so it will show that it is the Turkish people as well that are opposed to this!

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« Reply #248 on: April 30, 2010, 18:47:41 PM »
As stated in previous post, now we are concentrating on making the authorities aware of the health and safey aspects of keeping two large dolphins in a very small enclosed pool.
We are not sure if this subject has been considered.
We have been unable to see any of the bulding plans, therefore we do not know how the water purity is going to be maintained.How is it going to be purified, filtered, supplied, disposed of, and chlorinated, also will there be professionals who will be sampling and testing, where are the tests samples going to be sent,and are the dolphns free of any infectious pathogens,
The following lists make interesting reading, they contain possible risks that could be passed from dolphins to humans and from humans to dolphins and more besides.
also the final document to click onto, demonstrates that dolphins are not friendly flipper animals, but can be potentially dangerous.
The two dolphins will certainly be under great stress from their new cramped, noisy, hot,  enviromentfilled with tourists.
 Who after reading this report, will not have second thoughts.
Any one for a dip!!!


Viral diseases"Research in America found that exposure to marine mammals can involve a health risk to people working with the animals and it can also threaten the health of the public. Diseases contracted from marine mammals are difficult to treat and diagnose, as they may be overlooked or even ignored by physicians who are not aware of the risks or range of potential infectious diseases".

Caliciviruses have been isolated from bottlenose dolphins. The marine caliciviruses appear to be serotypes of vesicular exanthema of swine virus (VESV, Vesicular Exanthema of Swine
Herpes Virus -
Herpesvirus-like lesions occur in a wide variety of cetaceans.
Distemper virus
A delphinoid distemper virus (cetacean morbillivirus [CMV]), closely related to rinderpest ( Rinderpest: Introduction) and peste des petits ruminants ( Peste Des Petits Ruminants: Introduction), has been implicated in the deaths of harbor porpoises and common dolphins off the coast of the UK, striped dolphins in the Mediterranean, and bottlenose dolphins in the western Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico.
The Pox Virus
Morbillivirus:A delphinoid distemper virus
(cetacean morbillivirus [CMV]), closely related to rinderpest (Rinderpest: Introduction) and peste des petits ruminants ( Peste Des Petits Ruminants: Introduction), has been implicated in the deaths  common dolphins off the coast of the UK, striped dolphins in the Mediterranean, and bottlenose dolphins in the western Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico.
Influenza - Infection is probably common.
Even well-fed captive animals become weak, incoordinated, and dyspneic. Swollen necks due to fascial trapping of air escaping through the thoracic inlet is reported. Occasionally, white or bloody nasal discharge will be evident.

Tuberculosis Weils Disease & LeptospirosisTuberculosis and other bacterial diseases such as Weils Disease a severe form of Leptospirosis characterised by jaundice, circulatory collapse and tendency to haemorrhage.

Pneumonia - The chief cause of death in captive marine mammals is believed to be pneumonia. Clinical signs include lethargy, anorexia, severe halitosis, dyspnea, pyrexia, and marked leukocytosis. The disease can progress rapidly.
 
Miscellaneous Bacterial Diseases: Marine mammals are probably susceptible to the entire range of pathogenic bacteria.
Salmonella
E.coli
Listeria
Pasteurella
multocida has caused several outbreaks of hemorrhagic enteritis with depression and abdominal distress leading to acute death in dolphins..
In dolphins, Mannheimia (Pasteurella) haemolytica has been incriminated in hemorrhagic tracheitis. Burkholderia (Pseudomonas) pseudomallei has caused serious fatal outbreaks of disease in various marine mammals in captivity in the Far East.
Staphylococcal septicemia has caused the death of a dolphin with osteomyelitis of the spine (pyogenic spondylitis). Another case of intradiskal osteomyelitis, due to Staphylococcus aureus

 
Sources: The above information was taken from the Merck Veterinary Manual

 

Viral diseases

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/170811.htm

 

Bacterial diseases

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/170808.htm

There is more information on the impact on human health in Chapter 5 page 29 of the Attached Booklet

http://www.hsus.org/web-files/PDF/MarMamCptvtyBklt.pdf

 Male Dophin kills man
 http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf101/sf101b07.htm



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« Reply #249 on: April 30, 2010, 19:30:15 PM »
Excellent info Judith unfortunately we are preaching to the converted.

I wonder if insurance companies know of these risks.

I have just emailed this information to Mondial, who are the insurance company First choice recommend.
I asked them in the light of the your information would they cover me to swim with dolphins.  Would be good if they stated that they would not cover.




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