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[Scunner]

No

[nichola]

Sorry Tinx but no they didn't.

Unions are made up of working people who were expendable in the Conservatives strategy to allow big business managed by there mates to make as much profit for as little money regardless of the cost in jobs and decent working condfitions and the resulting effect of impact on the quality of peoples lives.

Who picked up the tab? The tax payer - you and me  

[tinkerman]

you are not old enough to remember Nichola:D

[nichola]

 

[PKHUGHES100]

I agree with Nicola 100%, we are what we are as a result of Thatcherisim, I am certain about that.... better the devil you know springs to mind! That said, my gut feeling is that it will be a hung parliament, political instability will ensue, a real chance of a recession and even more awful times ahead. I would also have to say that intellectually, not spin and PR, Gordon was credible and knows his stuff, he led on the strategy to deal with the world recession and you must have been living on "cloud coocko land" if you did not see that![?]

Kevin

[tinkerman]

How is the demise of British Leyland down to Thatcherism?

[PKHUGHES100]

Read Nic's previous post on the matter that will give you a clue. The Thatcher era was the catalyst, but I am sure all of us will not agree on that proposition. I suppose that is the beauty of democracy and it clearly indicates the importance of voting and exercising our democratic privilege and right!

Kevin

[tinkerman]

Nicholas? is she really:D

Nicola's reply hasnt told me how Thatcherism was responsible for the demise of British Leyland, but I do remember the unions walking out at the drop of a coffee cup and also turning down 20% pay rises.

I remember the unions of British Rail also walking out at the drop of a signal and holding the country to ransom.

British Coal! don't even go there

[Scunner]

The most important point is to ask who in the last 100+ years has done more for the quality and standard of life in the UK - the unions or the Conservative party. It certainly isn't the Conservative Party - if the union movement and the Labour party had never actually happened, whether you like it or not, we'd still be dying of exhaustion in a ditch through making high stone walls surrounding our master's stately home.

The Conservative beliefs would have settled for that, had they been in power for the last 100 years we would have had 100 years of stagnant rule where the rich do indeed get richer and the other 99% are irrelevant commodities.

[tinkerman]

The Unions were a great concept and well done the Tolpuddle Martyrs (from Dorset)for setting the pace, unfortunately it all went top heavy and the unions began to run the manufacturing industry and again unfortunately ran it straight into the ground, the only thing Thatcher was guilty of is stopping the tail wagging the dog, albeit in many cases it was too late.