visa

[baklavalover]

IMHO, I think you should all stop speculating as to why/what/how and stop moaning, accept the new ruling as you aint gonna change it !  Most of you have abused the tourist visa system for years so should be grateful you got away with it for so long ! If you all want to live here....stop trying to buck the system and pay for your residency.  Good God, if you heard about a load of foreigners in the UK doing something similar there would be an outcry.  The politics behind the requirement for a tourist visa for different countries is just that, political.  It's not an affront to Brits !! What makes me laugh here is that so many of you state you contribute to the local economy....how's that then ??  Many of you illegally rent out apartments and villas without paying taxes, therefore actually taking business away from pensions and smaller Turkish hotels.  Black economy thrives here, there are quite a few people doing a little something on the side so you cant have it all ways can you ? Tourism wont be affected here, just the ex pat who doesnt want to/can't pay residency.  That mens the Nil and Bamboo bars will be empty......

[baklavalover]

sorry, before you all get grumpy, I didnt mean to slander the Nil and Bamboo bars !!  I meant all the seafront bars in Calis once the summer season is over >>>>>>

[Linda]

quote:Originally posted by baklavalover

IMHO, I think you should all stop speculating as to why/what/how and stop moaning, accept the new ruling as you aint gonna change it !  Most of you have abused the tourist visa system for years so should be grateful you got away with it for so long ! If you all want to live here....stop trying to buck the system and pay for your residency.  Good God, if you heard about a load of foreigners in the UK doing something similar there would be an outcry.  The politics behind the requirement for a tourist visa for different countries is just that, political.  It's not an affront to Brits !! What makes me laugh here is that so many of you state you contribute to the local economy....how's that then ??  Many of you illegally rent out apartments and villas without paying taxes, therefore actually taking business away from pensions and smaller Turkish hotels.  Black economy thrives here, there are quite a few people doing a little something on the side so you cant have it all ways can you ? Tourism wont be affected here, just the ex pat who doesnt want to/can't pay residency.  That mens the Nil and Bamboo bars will be empty......

I have to agree baclavalover with all you say

[Dizzy Jan]

baklavalover I don't thnk this is a new ruling at all, I think that the Turkish Government are just closing a loop hole. This is why there have been no announcements to the embassies, they are just going to apply the law that is already in place. NOT everyone breaks the law over here by having a little black market number, in fact I help with the carnival and the many people that I have meet doing this are putting a lot back into Calis and the poor childen not taking away. I total agree with Scunner and Preece statements and feel nobody will die if we all go home but the area will be poorer because of so its time the Turkish Government saw as as a help to there ecomony not a neccessary evil to be tolerated but not encouraged.

[vonny]

There is an article coming in tomorrows (Tuesday) Fethiye times..... Did i make a comment about this in Feb??? and was told not to listen to the man in the string vest who had drunk 15 Effe's!!!!!

[starman™]

I also agree with baclavalover. This system has been abused for so long. End of the day it costs 400 pound a year for a residence. If you compare it to border jumping 4 times a year and add on the visa cost, travel costs to the ports, cost of travel to get across, money you spend on food and drink for the day, losing out on the exchange rate for euros, spending on duty free booze that you would not normally buy on a normal day then the cost is not that much different.
Foreigners in the UK have to go about this legally through Croydon and dont have the border jumping luxury where you can pop over to France for a few hours and come back with a new visa.
Should count it lucky they have been allowing it to happen for so many years.

[loz]

Totally agree if you reside in Turkey then have a residency permit, we did, now we are back in the UK and will be penalised for having a property in Turkey that we want to visit throughout the summer months (May June and maybe September/October also New Years various weeks/months) this will not now be possible under the new 90/180day rule.

I am not now resident of Turkey I am resident of UK, all my papers state this, why the hell should I have to be forced to buy a residency for a holiday home that I will now probably use for upto 4 months total out of a 12 month period!

Angry! YES! [!]

(beginning to think I should have bought in Spain)

[Diverbaz 1]

Just another slant on the new visa,

It reads on the visa that you can have 90 days in the country in a 180 day period, so you have a new visa , you have 180 days to use the 90 days. There is nothing on the visa that says you cannot have a new visa after the 90 days have been used. Just means an infrequent visitor has longer to use the 90 days.

I hope that is clear enough to understand what I mean.

[Scunner]

But

If that is the case, why are the likes of Selo worried? Get Visa 1 on return from Meis, 90 days later get visa 2 on return from Meis. No change.

[vonny]

This is all very confusing we will not know the truth until it has been published as TRUE... But the link provided (Page 22) states.

we would stress that until such time as an official announcement has been made, any views expressed on KTLN should be regarded as unconfirmed.

Long term residents
In the KTLN Kalkan Survey* sample, around one third of long term foreign residents did not have formal residency, but chose to do 3 month visa runs.

If you are amongst that number, our understanding is that you will no longer be able to do this.  Your options appear to be clear: either you spend  3 months here and 3 months abroad (possibly back in your original country), or you apply for your residency (ikamet).

If you currently have a 3 month visa issued before 14th July 2010, you will be able to get one of the new visas, which will allow you a further 90 days stay, in a period of 180 days, from the date of issue.  So most people reading this, (in mid-July), will have at least 3 months to get things sorted out.