visa

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by saoirse

but thats exactly the crux of my query

is it ANY 180 day period or the 180 day period of the visa-big difference

I think your passport is stamped with a 180 day visa and you must not stay more than 90 days on that particular stamp.

So - you have to be out of the country for at least 90 days whilst that stamp is in force on your passport.

[saoirse]

I see

so my scenario of if you go for a week in mid Jan you cannot have a 3 week holiday there in July is correct

Total madness-what other regular holiday destinations are there where you have to get the calendar out to see if you are allowed back for a summer break!

[Scunner]

Well you can't disagree with that. This seemed like a good deal for holidaymakers when it was first announced but as we delve in more it does seem to be exposing great potential problems ahead. We've all flown into Dalaman before, how on Earth will a first timer know anything about this or it's implications if they return later in the year?

We've been discussing it for weeks and between us we can't really work it all out

[kismetbar]

I stongly believe that anyone who owns property and resides here for MOST/ALL of the year should take out the legally required Residence.

But what I do believe should happen is that after a 5 year residence has been completed we should be entitled to certain benefits such as a reduction in residence charges....a reduction in Medical Bills and a right to work in certain jobs connected with the tourist trade  

Being able to work legally would generate more Tax's give a better holiday experience to tourists and bring much needed money into Turkey...It would also flush out all the people who are illegally working taking the money and contributing nothing at the expense of people that do.

Take away the cost of renewing a visa every 90 days from the total of a years residence and it doesn't seem quite so much extra to pay...but I do feel that the timing has been planned just as the residency as increased over 50% and if as some people imply it is only aimed at us Brits..then isn't that discrimination.

Ian

[stuart]

seems pretty clear to me the change is designed to stop the visa rat runs to meis etc and make residents get residency.

the passport police in fethiye are gearing up for the influx of applications and the rush has started already. they are even building a new annex next to their office for the increase in work load.

[Diverbaz 1]

Nowhere has any official stated that you have to have 90 days out of the country. It says 90 days in 180. Very few "real tourists" spend 90 days straight off, although they do pay for 90 days, so could this be for "real tourists" to get a better deal to use their 90 days and when you have used your 90 days you can apply for a new visa. Where does it say you can't apply for a new visa until after the 180 days?
Could this also be the reason no advance notice is given as it doesn't really affect anybody, just gives "real tourists" a better deal.

[Scunner]

Ok Stuart it's designed to stop the visa runs, we get that - but what happens to the first time visitor in May who returns with a still valid visa in November (to see her Turkish waiter boyfriend of course) and is stamped through (due to 180 day visa still being valid) but unknown to her and unspecified to passport control, it runs out 4 days after she arrives, and she is over for a week?

[loz]

It is stamped with a 90 day visa,
but clearly states only 90 days out of 180
get a visa stay 20 days go out of Turkey for 2 months (60days)
Return, buy another visa (The second visa is for 90 days) but you have used up 20days therefore you can stay for 70 days (or any amount lower than) or 14days and return return again upto the allocated days remaining on the 2nd visa.

Enter Turkey 90day visa (stamped 90days out of 180)

holiday stay 21days

21days  = 69days left out of 180

return for another holiday 2months later (your 1st visa has only approx 7 days left to run,  
buy 2nd visa on entry, you now have a total of 69days out of you 180 remaining.

You still have to buy a 2nd visa, the first visa is not valid for 180day, it is only stating that out of 180days you have 90days.

saoirse:
you come out on 15th January, for 1 week you have 83 days left (out of a possible 180.
You come again in July buy a visa (£10) you can have your 21 days no problem, you have 83 days left from your January visa, and your new one will start again with 90 days from July.

It is a mess, A Turkish friend phoned the consulate, the explanation is as I have described.

(Still a complete Farce, for people who have a property and want to holiday for long stints yet are not resident of Turkey.

[stuart]

Ian.. after 5 years residency you can take the citizenship exam..pass it then you can work.\pay into the national nhs. no more residency fees etc etc/

think seriously about starting up turkish lessons in your establishment this winter. as am sure there will be a lot more people about with an incentive to learn to speak turkish..lol

[Scunner]

quote:Originally posted by loz


get a visa stay 20 days go out of Turkey for 2 months (60days)
Return, buy another visa

Can you buy another visa though? You appear to be 100 days early?