Blood money or a grand gesture

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by puma

all i can say is thatcher and the falklands another warmonger

Disagree - the Falklands people wanted to stay British and we defended their right. Thatcher did nothing wrong IMO.

[Highlander]

I have to agree with Stoop Puma. Not the same thing.

I just think that Tony is still on an a this massive ego trip and everything is about him and nothing else.

[stoop]

Cherieeeee is the one to watch ;-)

[Highlander]

I can believe that Stoop. I often wonder how much influence she had over our Tone why he was faced with the really big decisions

[desmartinson]

totally agree stoop, falklands was invaded and we defended our land. he should be standing in dock charged with war crimes alongside his sugar daddy bush. hundreds of lives lost because of an illegal war(remember no weapons of mass destuction ever found or proved to have any). i think he should also be charged with mass destuction of our own country, but that of course is just my opinion.

[karaokemark]

Would that be the Falklands war, where Mrs Thatcher sunk the General Belgrano with the loss of 323 lives, even though it was outside the exclusion zone she set up and going the other way.
To say all Tony Blair did was bring in the minimum wage is rubbish. I lost a sister to cancer because she waited weeks to see a specialist in the 90s I can tell the story because I got treatment within one week 10 years ago.
That said I think Maggie was a great prime minister, as was Tony Blair. Even after a year on strike I still voted for Maggie. But then again I was born a Tory but started to vote on what I thought was right not because where I live, or how rich we were.
This is not a go at any one in particular, but up north we have a saying "if the cap fits wear it"
Mark

[pookie]

Can't stand the man personally.  Don't think he does have a conscience - he appears to be as fake as his smile.  Damn good decision to give the money away....he certainly didn't deserve to keep it and if our heros can benefit from his mistakes so they should.

[scouser2swife]

Agree with you Mark. The point about democracy is that everyone has a vote and with it comes your own personal right to use that vote in your own best interests.After Thatcher, our NHS was in a very bad way, so Blair recruited nursing students on his 'project 2000'. Within 3 years of this starting we had cut down the influx of 'foreign' nursing staff, and had cut the unemployment rate.
If Blair was so bad, why was he voted into power twice?....Although Brown soon stuck his knife in!

[desmartinson]

good point from mark and sadness to lose any family member and relations from illness whom they know should have better treatment. but how many parents are there who have lost sons and daughters husbands and wives not through illness but killed in another country thousands of miles away when they should not have been there in the first place, one man is responsible for that, and that man is Tony Blair

[karaokemark]

Hind sight and history tells us great things, Des the next time you buy me a pint if we had ignored Adolf you would be ordering it in German.
We will never know what the world would be like if we left Saddam to his own devices, or if we left Afghanistan to look after its self.
 I have trust to the people we elect to do what they think is right at the time with the information they have.
Mark