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« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2010, 19:18:32 PM »
Actually John Major did not invade Iraq. The Persian Gulf (Dessert Storm - 1991) war which liberated Kuwait from invading Iraqi forces didn't actually take place in Iraq or effect its citizens. Again, this was a defence of an allied country and once the Iraqi forces were forced back into southern Iraq a ceasefire was called. Remember Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf.

Reference the actual Iraq War - 2003 - The security services have already made public that they knew there were no WMD in Iraq before invasion took place. Why it took place is open to conjecture but maybe we will learn why from Tony's book.

Barry - Mrs T was far from being a saint but I don't see what she has to do with any of this



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« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2010, 19:37:36 PM »
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Originally posted by Beep

didn't actually take place in Iraq or effect its citizens.



Over and above at least 20,000 Iraqi military personnel, an estimated three and a half thousand Iraqi citizens perished in the "Persian Gulf (Dessert Storm - 1991) war" as you call it through bombings alone. Ten times more than coalition forces deaths. 3,500 - an irrelevant number as it didn't affect the citizens of Iraq - according to your version of events.

Good old John Major, an angel.

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« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2010, 19:58:23 PM »
What..... the security services made everything public and we now know all that happened....... nothing locked away then?
no 50 year rule?
no locked away forever?
Beep.... you have one view other people have another view..
Just because you believe a thing to be true, or you read somthing in the press, dont make it fact.
Democracy.... who'd have it a...!

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« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2010, 20:13:40 PM »
In 1991 Iraq was the aggressor into Kuwait and a coalition of 32 nations repelled the invasion. Subsequently in any war there are unfortunately casualties.

This is a quite different set of events to that leading to the Iraq invasion and enforced occupation in 2003 and that you're well aware of Keith but it's always interesting to exchange different points of view ;-)

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« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2010, 20:33:58 PM »
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Subsequently in any war there are unfortunately casualties


Ah, that's a little different to your earlier "didn't actually take place in Iraq or effect its citizens"

I agree, it's nice to have a debate on here and not have anyone resorting to name calling or storming off in a huff :-\

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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2010, 20:40:02 PM »
:-))

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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2010, 21:01:57 PM »
come on guys, time to nip this in the bud i think, this is not a thatcher v blair contest because it would be no contest. everyone knows regardless of their politcal beliefs Margaret Thatcher was the finest prime minister this country has had since Winston Churchill. the topic is blood money, and tony blair is donating it because deep down he feels guilt, but has,nt got the guts to admit it. Des signing off.

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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2010, 21:05:07 PM »
Bait





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Good try Des :D

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« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2010, 21:10:25 PM »
Night Des ;-)

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« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2010, 21:12:20 PM »
Good topic, relatively sensibly discussed, however it went rapidly downhill with last post by desmartinson. I submit that there is probably many millions of his fellow british people who do not think Thatcher was finest PM since etc.




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