Does anyone support the students?

[Colwyn]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner

So a combination violence and vandalism is the way to go, if you want to get your particular problem onto the telly.

Only if you think that the ends justify the means in this particular case. The way you choose to go depends on more things than getting on the telly. But protesting is supposed to be a public demonstration.

[c1]

point of veiw from both sides very strong, consider why government is doing what it is. it all comes down to the miss management of the last 15 years yes I include tory Major in this, Blair, Brown, all need to hang their heads in shame because if they had been up to the jobs they had we would have had robust banking rules etc. I warned you allover three years ago that B and B would bankrupt the country, just you wait and see what happens over next year as the councils down size work force. Students have a point it's one hell of an increase which I would have thought could have been phased in over three years.I think industry should be given tax breaks to help support student that are training to work in their industry like the forces do, students could sign up an apprentiship deal were they have to work for the company during holidays and for say two years after passing out. All this talk about Royal bashing and damaging any building beit MacDonalds or War memorials shows the typical left wing markist veiw point I think Ian and Stoop have made fair and valued post to this as have many others, some just seem to want to white stir.

[nuttybird]

Saoirse, your comments "For mere mortals like myself who try to be up front, warts and all-its amusing in itself to hear the self righteous declare whats funny and whats sick in humour" Please explain to me how I am self righteous and oh what was it a hypocrit? Just because I do not like your humour, and said so! Its fine for you to broadcast your 'Humour' but as I said before its then fine for me to broadcast my disgust.Its not one rule for you and another for me! You do not know me, you do not know what I laugh at or do not laugh at but it certainly isnt any jokes along your line, Frankie Boyle or anyone that tells a sick/racist joke. Dont presume you know me so do not call me a hypocrit or self righteous.  If you dont like it then it really doesnt bother me one way or the other! You told me to move on, which I was going to do, but your not allowing that to happen because your still grumbling on about it! I dont like your 'humour', and ive told you, end of. Now taking your own advice how about we all move on?! Oh and a very Merry Christmas to you also.

[saoirse]

Nuttybird

I certainly am not prejudging you-indeed it would appear that I am the one who is being regarded as the devil incarnate here because of my humour

My point is that humour is so much a matter for the individual that I honestly beleive no subject can be ruled out-but thats not saying everyone will find every subject funny

You went off on one because you had a personal experience of tragedy in the subject I mentioned. I do think its a tad unfair to expect me or anyone to avoid all subjects that may or may not relate to a tradgedy someone has experienced

I have an inbuilt aversion to "morality police" or those who decide they are better/higher morals etc than anyone else. I am not accusing you re that but the moral indignation expressed by some on here along with knee jerk decisions on what type a person someone is because of what they find funny is at best a bit daft. I of course would not delibrately tell a joke or post a comment just to hurt someone-but at the same time I cannot see it as practical to avoid all subjects in case they may offend.

[mike A]

quote:Originally posted by c1

point of veiw from both sides very strong, consider why government is doing what it is. it all comes down to the miss management of the last 15 years yes I include tory Major in this, Blair, Brown, all need to hang their heads in shame because if they had been up to the jobs they had we would have had robust banking rules etc. I warned you allover three years ago that B and B would bankrupt the country, just you wait and see what happens over next year as the councils down size work force. Students have a point it's one hell of an increase which I would have thought could have been phased in over three years.I think industry should be given tax breaks to help support student that are training to work in their industry like the forces do, students could sign up an apprentiship deal were they have to work for the company during holidays and for say two years after passing out. All this talk about Royal bashing and damaging any building beit MacDonalds or War memorials shows the typical left wing markist veiw point I think Ian and Stoop have made fair and valued post to this as have many others, some just seem to want to white stir.

c1.
your consistent right wing polemic is getting rather tedious now and comments like
"Royal bashing and damaging any building beit MacDonalds or War memorials shows the typical left wing markist veiw point"
owe more to your political leanings than reasoned argument.

[Colwyn]

quote:Originally posted by c1

if they had been up to the jobs they had we would have had robust banking rules etc.

I thought you right wing types were in favour of something you call "The Free Market" which works perfectly if it is unregulated? Can't remember Tories saying "Business should be controlled by more rules!". In fact, rather the opposite.

quote:Originally posted by mike A

your consistent right wing polemic is getting rather tedious now a

Come on Mike, you've got to let people you disagree with have their say or we can't have a debate - and would be neither fun nor informative.

[nuttybird]

Saoirse, i see your point, and think we both should agree to disagree, because I agree with some of what you have said and some not.  

[elaina]

quote:Originally posted by c1

point of veiw from both sides very strong, consider why government is doing what it is. it all comes down to the miss management of the last 15 years yes I include tory Major in this, Blair, Brown, all need to hang their heads in shame because if they had been up to the jobs they had we would have had robust banking rules etc. I warned you allover three years ago that B and B would bankrupt the country, just you wait and see what happens over next year as the councils down size work force. Students have a point it's one hell of an increase which I would have thought could have been phased in over three years.I think industry should be given tax breaks to help support student that are training to work in their industry like the forces do, students could sign up an apprentiship deal were they have to work for the company during holidays and for say two years after passing out. All this talk about Royal bashing and damaging any building beit MacDonalds or War memorials shows the typical left wing markist veiw point I think Ian and Stoop have made fair and valued post to this as have many others, some just seem to want to white stir.

I agree wholeheartedly.  What on earth does trying to burn the Christmas tree in Tragalgar Square solve:-\ It just puts the tourists off of coming to London.  More lost revenue that we need now more than ever now. Can you imagine what would have happened had this riot been in Fethiye!!!!

[Colwyn]

quote:Can you imagine what would have happened had this riot been in Fethiye!!!!

If is was anything like Labour Day in Taxim Square it would be one hell of a riot - including people killed!

[saoirse]

quote:Originally posted by nuttybird

Saoirse, i see your point, and think we both should agree to disagree, because I agree with some of what you have said and some not.  

More than happy to agree to disagree-thanx nuttybird