my vist this time to calis *moan.

[sandgrounder]

quote:Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey

 I don't see any cure.

The simple cure is if you find a place you love and wish to go back time after time then keep it to yourself and don't tell anybody:D

[littlereddevil]

I have been coming to this area since 1980's and still love it although I have to say I have seen vast changes. We came before there were any hotels in Olu then stayed at the first one built. There was a camping site there,very lively at night! I hope I will continue to enjoy the area for a few more years  before it changes drastically.

[Ovacikpeedoff]

I do think there is a lot of snobbery when it comes to food. If someone is happy having a Sunday roast or fish and chips then good luck to them.It makes them in no way inferior to those that preach I only eat Turkish food when I am on holiday. None of us are forced to eat it. As Scunner said some time ago it is a matter of supply and demand.The holidaymaker wants then the Turks will supply it and that is how they make a living. I wonder how many people here have been to kale Park when they were serving Sunday roast. It was always full when we went there.

Calis is a tourist destination and not an exclusive area for expats. Brits choose to buy property there and were not forced into it. Wherever you have expats you will always find some that create a community that grows and is exclusively full of expats. They virtually declare UDI and want to spend their lives together. They do not want to be part of the wider society. Most of the time they spend in the bars. This is not just Calis but you can see exactly the same thing in Spain. They also have this attitude that they are better than the locals and think that by trying to take the mick out of them that they have a superior intellect. What they forget is that these local bar staff are fairly fluent in English and can also speak Turkish. Most of these expats struggle to speak English.

[Highlander]

am thinking of cancelling our next trip.

[Colwyn]

OP, I agree that people are free to choose English breakfast and Sunday roast when they are on holiday - they are there to enjoy themselves so why not? However, it does become a little more irritating when you find that every restaurant has decided that money is to made out of English (or Indian, or Chinese, or Mexican, or whatever the new thing is) and you cannot find any Turkish food in a resort. This seems to have happened, at least some of the time, in Calis. Over the years a number of people have asked on CBF where the best Turkish restaurants are to be found in Calis and have received answers such as "I haven't the faintest idea" "Go to Fethiye". So you are free to choose anything you like - except possibly that different experience that you came to Turkey to find.

That's the trouble with free markets - they too often create, and then drive out, freedom of choice.

[Ovacikpeedoff]

Colwyn, I understand what you are saying but it is market forces. When people ask me where did I have the best Turkish meal I tell them the truth. It was in Wellingborough in Northamptonshire. It is the same in most places around the Med. You try getting a proper Spanish meal on the Costas and it is difficult.If i wanted anything remotely Turkish we went to the Gar and the other restaurants opposite the bus otogar.

A Turkish friend ran a restaurant in Hisaronu and I asked him why very little Turkish food on the menu. He told me the previous year they had half Turkish and half foreign and the tourist mostly went for the foreign food.If it is your first time coming to a country you tend to stick with what you know.

[Scunner]

There is also a widespread belief that if you don't have on your menu what next door has, and two doors down has, or anyone at all has, then you will lose business. Specialising is seen as for the brave and the stupid. Even those who specialise often end up having the old "two menus" plan in the end. The result is next to no variety from place to place, never ending menus and somehow a belief that rice chips and salad is imperative if you want tourist business..?

With few exceptions this is the case, especially along the prom.

[artie]

I think the worlds gone mad.Best turkish meal in wellingborough,britains favourite food is chicken tikka masala and probably best fish and chips in fethiye.

[Carefreecaz]

You should have come to Guven's. We had lots of families over Easter and all had a really good time!

[debs16]

OH,i think after reading this topic i have made a wrong resort choice,this will be our first family holiday with our daughter son-in law and grandson,i had a hard time talking them into coming to Turkey as they have both been to Altinkum and hated it(my daughter has worked in various resorts also)i assured them that this sounded very different,she was finaly sold when she saw pics of the suset beach club,i have also just seem some pics of the beach on here it looks terrible,i really thought i`d done my home work.