Medical insurance

[happy_brit]

Is that a threat to free speech? Trouble with the British, too civilised to see and and say when they are being taken for a ride. Block my posts if you like, your system is easy to get around. Without wishing to cause offence, who on this Forum feels we are being take advantage of with Compulsory Healthcare??? If so e-mail your Ambassador, stand up and be counted.

[Highlander]

Would you be good enough to answer my question please.

[Scunner]

quote:Originally posted by happy_brit

Is that a threat to free speech?

As you appear to be still talking, no.

[happy_brit]

Highlander, no problem, the Esnaf and Letoonia are private hospitals, business as usual. The Turkish people part fund it with their state system and we pay whatever fees are requested when we use the service, exorbitant or not! FREEDOM OF CHOICE. Incidentally the Devlet SHOULD BE for the sole use of Turkish people, it is after all a State Hospital! This system has been in place for years.

[Jack13]

what if all ex pats suddenly decided to close all their banks accounts ( highly unlikely but just suppose ) and move back elsewhere? how would businesses in calis, fethiye,hisaronu, olu deniz survive. i love staying here but i am not going to be taken for a mug. at the end of the day this is just another tax which of course the ex pats will pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! remember the road tax,the 90day visa. watch this space.

[Scunner]

They survived for thousands of years before the British expat turned up, I'm sure they'd find a way...

[Ovacikpeedoff]

happy brit you do write some nonsense. To say that it is the expats that are the main source of income for 2 big hospitals in Fethiye is a load of tosh.Highlander and Scunner asked you to back the statement up by giving a link to these hospital accounts. Now you have changed your tune as you cannot back up the claim.

Dealing with the issue that the UK government has a duty to provide you with healthcare while you live in Turkey. You choose to live abroad and you were not forced to live abroad. If you did your homework before you left you should have known that Turkey does not operate a free healthcare system. Come back and live in the UK and you will qualify for free healthcare under the NHS. Healthcare has not been taken away from you.

It is perfectly acceptable for you to have a go at foreigners using and abusing the NHS, but it is acceptable for you to do that in Turkey. Turks pay high amounts of income tax and also have to pay this statutory health insurance but you think you should be exempt from having to pay for it and only pay if you get ill.It is a bit like saying that I will only pay car insurance to the insurance company when it is necessary to make a claim.

In the meantime before you have to use it who is actually going to pay for the upkeep of the health system?

I find your statement that the state hospital should only be for Turks insulting. When I lived in Fethiye the state hospital was the only place that I could go to see a physio. So under your rules I should not have had treatment for a serious ankle problem.

[Highlander]

"In the meantime before you have to use it who is actually going to pay for the upkeep of the health system?"

My point exactly - it seems to me to be nonesense to say that a health system soley on pay as you go.

I think happy_brit now accepts this point.

[Highlander]

Jack13 - may I ask if are you in favour of the reduced residency charges.

[Ovacikpeedoff]

When I read some comments on this forum I wonder what some expats expect. Some think because they bought a property that they should have the right to only abide by those laws that suit them.They moan about the visa changes to 90 in 180 days because it ends the visa runs and is forcing people into having to get a residents permit. Anyone permanently living in a country should have a residents permit. Changing the visa rules brings Turkey in line with the rest of Europe. Expats should be thankful that they are allowed to get a residents permit so easily. Look at the hoops a Turk has got to go through to get into the UK.I know a number of Turks who applied for visas and have been turned down. I have never heard of a case where an expat has been refused a visa.

The vast majority of expats do not pay any direct taxes in Turkey but they expect the Turkish government to provide an infrastructure that is similar to what they left in the UK.They pay around £150 a year in council tax and they expect motorways for it.

We now have some people up in arms about this health insurance and how they are going to find ways round it.We have some saying that it is the responsibility of the UK government to look after their health needs.In my opinion the introduction of a healthcare system for the whole population is a good step forward and all should have to contribute.I see it as a step forward by the government.An individual should not be refused medical care because they cannot afford it.It is the responsibility of the Turkishgovernment to look after the majority of the population and it is not there to ensure the comfort of a few expats.

I think some people need to get a grip on reality. We are living in a very different world than what it was even 5 years ago.

Threatening to move money out of the country and go to live somewhere else really is a threat without teeth. At the end of the day the Turks have got the most important thing in the capital investment that has been made in property. Look at the impact on the housing market if every expat put their property on the market. They would be lucky to get 30p in the £1 invested.