Medical insurance

[tylerbabe]

http://kalkan.turkishlocalnews.com/portal/kalkan-news/201328-universal-health-insurance-uhi-and-sgk-update-january-2012

[quackers]

I went today with my sister who is here for 1 year then maybe next year she will return to live here. Turned up at 9am ish. Number 117 was our ticket waited for nearly 1 and half hours. The lads on the desk are taking a lot of comments from brits and turks poor souls they looked fed up. They did not know the answer to our query so referred us to they`re boss. We went to see her and as luck would have it a reporter for  the Independant newspaper was in the office and translated for us. She must be finding out whats going on for her newspaper. The answer to my sisters query was she has to regiser if and when she comes back to Turkey as she will have held residency for 1 year and will renew her RP upon her return.
Just worked out this insurance is equal to 2 Effes per day for 2 people. Good value I think.

[hoops man]

Simple question....Why is everyone running to register for something they have no idea is about? No idea yes! You see some of the truth may have been said but we are all far from knowing the implications of registering into such a scheme. How will it benefit you? does it benefit you? is it compulsary? etc etc ...everyone has been bushwacked and scared into doing this due to a fine per person if you dont. This happened with the road tax. Why why why give this govermnent fuel for the fire? They will just have something else round the corner. How can they the turkish goverment force this fine? Maybe im thick or maybe they just can because they are the govermnet and dont give a damn about x pats (who give to this society)1 little bit. it beggars belief but im shocked at all the Brits living here like pawns of the governement and rushing to join up. im also equally shocked at the lack of information from our own government. Its a mess and as i said in the previous thread its comical but nobody is laughing. i for one will sit and wait and when and if there is an anouncement will make my choice. if it was the uk no way in this world would all those who have gone to gunlukbasi and registered have done so. Im angry cause its a great place but if i was a brit now thinking of retirement over here id never do it. nobody wants to say it but the mentality is stupid and everyones scared to say it. Stupid stupid stupid. Sometimes nothing makes sense to us not because of the cultural difference or language barriers but just mentality. They i believe should never and will never be part of europe. but sorry im just ranting but can i honestly say i feel sorry not only for people like myself who have to still work for a living and now maybe having to hand over very hard earned money to this lot but to the x pats who just survive and still want to stay here. many will leave yet the government must know that and do they care? Well thats another topic.

[swimmer67]

And the famous quote from the newspapers today - whom have taken it upon themselves to help with the scaremongering, guessing games etc...

"However, in the absence of definitive advice from the British Embassy, or the Turkish authorities, we must stress that that what you see on KTLN is ONLY OUR VIEW"

I am surprised so many people are even going to the insurance offices asking for advice or joining this insurance just yet - the turks working there are just as confused, how can they give advice when the finalised law is not out. So, why would anyone hand over any money at all right now - even just to register - just to jump a potential quew, save a bit of time, or avoid a fine which is not imposed yet?  and of course there are other people out there, who would greatly offer to complete the necessary forms/documents for us to also save time... at a cost of course!!!!!... Why not just wait, sit tight and see what comes out officially soon... then fight it!... cant fight anything before it is real.... x

[hubblebubble]

swimmer67 the finalised law is 5510 - available in English, covers all aspects of the Social insurance and UHI including that for foreigners, also level of fines etc - feel free to look it up.

[swimmer67]

Hubble bubble.. Thanks - I have read that.. so is that as from Today - completeley finalised and confirmed with British consulate? so thats it all sorted?

[hubblebubble]

Well last time i checked the British weren't able to make Turkish law... and bear in mind Brits are not the only yabanci affected.
My understanding is that the Consulate have requested direction to local SSK offices so that they are all uniform in their requests and negotiating a coverall NHS letter.

[Evie]

Went over today at 2.30pm and registered - straight forward no one queuing

[col]

Well said Hoopsman, on everything you have posted.
I have posted on this also, and agree with you, yet
some replies appear to rebuff my thoughts, and some of them
from members who, according to their profiles, do not live in Turkey.
Having spoken to a few estate agents, (as I still want to move from fethiye) they seem to believe this insurance is bad news, as in... making it compulsory for ex pats, rather than letting us have a choice and paying when needed for treatment etc, as it has been working fine.  A few friends I have also spoken to just today, will not (as yet) renew residency this year, but like me, they are lucky enough to be able to return the uk for a while till this fiasco is sorted.
Hope to catch up with you soon.

[Highlander]

" I have posted on this also, and agree with you, yet
some replies appear to rebuff my thoughts, and some of them
from members who, according to their profiles, do not live in Turkey".

Don't know if that was directed at me col but the fact that I do not live in Turkey certainly does not preclude me from have a view on the matter and if I disagree with your thoughts then I believe that I am perfectly entitled to rebuff them.

I posed what I thought was a reasonable question "do people think it is possible to run a health service with everyone contributing on a "pay as you go basis".