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Offline Ian

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Re: NHS How fortunate we are?
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2013, 17:56:49 PM »
You are so right - advances are amazing - not least when you get given the choice of a mechanical valve, or one from pig tissue or bovine tissue - really is Star Trek times we live in.

Coincidentally my youngest daughter went into the same hospital a week after my mother-in-law was discharged to have her first baby.

As I held Amelia for the first time I said to my daughter - "you know the life expectancy of a girl born today will be 88+ - so she will be around in 2101 - I wonder what the world will be like then!!!

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Re: NHS How fortunate we are?
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2013, 00:25:05 AM »
Lovely post, Ian. I do hope Mum enjoys good health for a good while longer. 

As someone who also has recently had reason to take advantage of the many services the NHS offers, I too am extremely grateful to this most noble of institutions.

Yes I've spent a lot of time waiting at various appointments and yes sometimes they have made a few errors. However, I genuinely have no complaints. I just count myself very, very lucky to be benefiting from Mr Bevin et al's astonishingly brilliant foresight. And the naysayers I come across whilst waiting are given a very brief history lesson and offered a comparative scenario.

Long Live The NHS! Which means voting out the Tories on 7th May 2015. Our only chance before they damage it beyond repair.

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Re: NHS How fortunate we are?
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2013, 00:35:07 AM »
Thank you for your kind words and words of wisdom   :)

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Re: NHS How fortunate we are?
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2013, 08:06:21 AM »
Very interesting to read this and may the recovery continue.
Here on Guernsey we have no NHS despite it being part of the UK.  There is no reciprocal health agreement with the UK any more either.  We do however enjoy a good health care funded by our tax and private insurance.  Ambulances are paid for separately if you need one and have no private insurance for ambulances specifically.  A doctor visit is around £45 a trip now. We do however, rely on UK specialist facilities occasionally.
To amplify the value of the NHS, just a short story.
One of my drivers suffered a minor heart attack as he was arriving for work. His son came and took him to hospital A & E (No ambulance thank you). Assessed quickly as needing specialist operating facilities he was flown off island the following morning to Southampton hospital. There, just two days after his attack he was given two stents to help arterial blood flow. Two days later he was back on Guernsey. He's now, two months later, in good shape, able to drive his car and being delayed returning to work solely due to paperwork coming from the UK. NHS is mainly excellent. 
It's staffed by people that care about their profession and get things done.  Long may it continue to produce heartwarming stories.

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Re: NHS How fortunate we are?
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2013, 10:09:50 AM »
I have the totally opposite view of the N.H.S. Probably because I loathe the hospital in Aberdeen.  I have never had a good experience there, either personally or with family members.   Latest report showed the Maternity Wing of that hospital in a very poor light.  Filthy dirty with blood on bed and equipment.  This is not new as my daughter found the place so squalid and that was over 3 years ago.  The ward toilet had blood all over the floor and walls and it was like that all day and the next morning.
My husband was admitted to Aberdeen Royal Infirmary last week with a suspected bleed on the brain.  We took him in, there was no one on reception and I eventually used an internal phone to get directions to the ward. On arrival, there wast no way into the Ward, reception not manned and door locked, ringing the bell was no use either it was ignored.  Eventually found a nurse to let us in.  Again we hung around for 2 hours waiting. with my husband.  When he did see a Doctor we were told that tests would be another 2 hours, as it was 9.30pm we where told to go home.  They moved my husband into another ward after 12.00 midnight and he had no pillow on his bed, three nurses at different times said they would bring a pillow, he never got one and spend the night without one.   At the time he was suffering from a slipped disc and was in a lot of pain.  He was given two paracetamol.   
On the other hand, the local NHS Cottage Hospital is such a lovely place and they cared for my Father so well when we as dying.  However, our Doctor suggested to him that a blood transfusion could prolong his life but he wold have to be moved to the hospital in Aberdeen, he totally refused, as he had such an awful time in that place he was terrified to go back and have to die there.   He stayed on in Peterhead Cottage Hospital, where we was really content and happy with the great care and attention he got from the lovely staff.  He died two weeks later. There was no way I would have wanted him back n ARI.

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Re: NHS How fortunate we are?
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2013, 10:38:36 AM »
Jacqui - so sorry to hear this - that does sound very very bad.

We are lucky to have a hospital like Wythenshawe Hospital. Strangely I remember my parents and their friends complaining about 15 years ago - very vociferously when A & E's and other facilities were being scheduled to close in South Manchester at other hospitals as they felt services would suffer. But what actually happened was that much much more money/funds were pumped into Wythenshawe Hospital and the other hospitals became centers for other things like cataract operations.

I actually said one day as we were walking out of the hospital "you can see what happens when they pump all the money into a central hub - they seem to have all the state of the art equipment and facilities"

Maybe we are lucky - one of the few advantages of living in a very densely populated area?

I hope your husband is on the road to recovery and your next experience at that particular hospital is a far better one.
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Re: NHS How fortunate we are?
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2013, 10:51:15 AM »
Jacqui - that's an awful experience for you.  Do hope your husband is ok.

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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2013, 11:05:00 AM »
I have to agree with Ian re Wythenshaw Hospital. My wife has been seeing a consultant there for about 5 years for chronic asthma. Our local hospital in Chester has an asthma department but after seeing a consultant there for 3 years he said he had exhausted all options of treatment available to him and he referred her to Wythenshaw.
They have a much bigger department with the latest kit in it and take on all of the 'problem' cases other hospitals can't deal with.
Her consultant gave her medication / treatment that was only available at the time through Wythenshaw.
I also have some horror NHS stories that happened to a friends father. I think that all hospitals have good and bad stories. I wouldn't want to be without the NHS though.

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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2013, 11:34:58 AM »
Jacqui - that's an awful experience for you.  Do hope your husband is ok.

Thanks Marina,  He had his back operation yesterday and is doing fine (In the private hospital in Aberdeen, his company have a medical plan for employees and wives).
No bleed on the brain, headaches caused by cocktail of drugs for the back pain).
Off to visit him this afternoon.

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Re: NHS How fortunate we are?
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2013, 12:29:37 PM »
That's good to hear, hope he has a full and speedy recovery   :)




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