Holiday Let New Controls

[KKOB]

The difference between Turkish Law and UK law again. You have to prove you're not earning money, the Taxman doesn't have to prove you are.

[strange]

I know the response from will be to get correct legal views, and rightly so, but I thought I'd chuck it out there anyway.
If your property is on a 'complex' where it states on the TAPU you own a certain share of the 'complex', is there a loop hole?
For example, if on the land there are 8 properties, and each owners TAPU states they own 1/8th of the parcel/package/land/whatever, do all the owners have to register people renting in any of the properties if at least one (and obviously I'm referring here to a permanent resident) of the TAPU owners are there? The TAPU holder permanently there owns 1/8th, but how does that work for this? Is it 1/8th of all properties on the land so therefore an owner is present?

[KKOB]

Probably.  

[trainer]

After reading a lot of different takes on this, as I see it if you have family staying for free you don't have to register but the way to prove that they are family is them having the same surname or maiden name.
with friends the onus is on the owner to prove that they are staying for free and that the powers at be automatically take it that they are paying guests.

I can actually see there point of view when it comes to the overall situation there are thousands of property owners across Turkey (of all nationalities) not paying taxes the country is in a financial mess and they want to generate money,  if this was in the Uk and thousands of foreigners where not paying their way we would be in uproar Just look at Jimmy Carr and all the other celebs they where vilified for doing something that they where advised was legal or so they say   
 

[Phil]

I can never make that quote feature work .....

But in reply to :

"If it's worked in percentages that's fine - I'll quite happily pay 100% tax on my rental income because 100% of zero is still zero!"

In order to pay your 100% tax on nil income you will of course have to register in the first place ..............

[AOK]

5. EXCEPTION IN RENTAL INCOME
If persons, who gain rental income from house (exception amount 3.800 TL for the year 2016), obtain income less than the amount of exception that is established annually, they are not required to be registered at the tax offices and not required to file a tax declaration to tax offices.
In case more than one person has the ownership of a house, the taxation of the rental income obtained from such house will be subject to 3.800 TL (for the year 2016) of exception separately for each proprietor.

GUIDEBOOK ON RENTAL INCOME FOR
NON-RESIDENT TAXPAYERS
http://www.gib.gov.tr

[Ian_and_Sian]

Thanks AOK!   

I think that is the first citable piece of information in this whole saga!!

[JohnF]

5. EXCEPTION IN RENTAL INCOME
If persons, who gain rental income from house (exception amount 3.800 TL for the year 2016), obtain income less than the amount of exception that is established annually, they are not required to be registered at the tax offices and not required to file a tax declaration to tax offices.

I think the issue here is whether its "rental income" or "commercial income".

The one constant from all "experts" is that daily or weekly rental income is considered to be commercial income, as opposed to rental income.  My understanding is that if its a long term let (e.g. 6 months), then it comes under the category of rental income.  Shorter lets are commercial income and as such as treated very differently.

JF

[AOK]

5. EXCEPTION IN RENTAL INCOME
If persons, who gain rental income from house (exception amount 3.800 TL for the year 2016), obtain income less than the amount of exception that is established annually, they are not required to be registered at the tax offices and not required to file a tax declaration to tax offices.

I think the issue here is whether its "rental income" or "commercial income".

The one constant from all "experts" is that daily or weekly rental income is considered to be commercial income, as opposed to rental income.  My understanding is that if its a long term let (e.g. 6 months), then it comes under the category of rental income.  Shorter lets are commercial income and as such as treated very differently.

JF

 

[Lotty]

They seem to have it all pretty well sewn up. A dead end at every turn. It's so widely documented now they're probably also counting on neighbours squealing.