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Flights, Airlines and Airports => Flights to Dalaman and Turkey, Airlines and Airports => Topic started by: Jacqui Harvey on April 26, 2013, 20:10:52 PM

Title: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 26, 2013, 20:10:52 PM
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You could not make this up.

My Daughter her husband and my Granddaughter who will be three in June, are on their way to Calis Beach. At the Airport today in Edinburgh the security insisted my Granddaughter go through by herself. The guy stood telling her to come over to him, she got very scared and did not want to go to him. My daughter asked could she bring her through and was told "no". Apparently it took a long time and some tears before my Granddaughter went through. My Daughter followed behind her and the alarm when off, so my Daughter was body searched.

Is it not time these security guys used their brains. Do the Security really think my Granddaughter is carrying a bomb. My Daughter tries to tell her not to go to strange men, but the Security are encouraging it.

I enclose a picture taken in the airport.... Does she really look like a criminal.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Scunner on April 26, 2013, 20:18:13 PM

 My Daughter tries to tell her not to go to strange men, but the Security are encouraging it.


That's a very good point Jacqui.

Ours were quite the opposite at that sort of age. I remember they used to hope to make the beep go off, and one being searched. She shouted across "mum, I got a massage" :o

But on a serious note, surely they could have let your daughter go with her and if need be search the two of them.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: nichola on April 26, 2013, 20:25:11 PM
This happened to a friend of mine and her daughter at a similar age who proceeded to have a total hissy fit and security were then too scared to touch her    :)
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: keng38 on April 26, 2013, 20:31:18 PM
Why didn't the daughter go first and call the granddaughter after then?
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: loz on April 26, 2013, 20:42:01 PM
Why didn't the daughter go first and call the granddaughter after then?

That is what I thought, this was happening at Gatwick the other week, the mother was going through first.  And yes I do think that children should be scanned, terrorist have no conscience.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Highlander on April 26, 2013, 20:48:14 PM
Why didn't the daughter go first and call the granddaughter after then?

Fair point. But equally why didn't the security person suggest that.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Scunner on April 26, 2013, 20:56:44 PM
Yes and at security we generally do what we are told. If he requested the child go through first then who is going to argue...
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: KKOB on April 26, 2013, 20:58:02 PM

Fair point. But equally why didn't the security person suggest that.

It's probably more than their job's worth to make sensible suggestions.

I've got an SIA (Security Industry Authority) licence and know for a fact that 99% of security personnel working at airports, ports etc only hold the most basic licence and aren't paid to make decisions. They stick to whatever it says in their Operations Manual and then can't go wrong.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: DANKY on April 27, 2013, 00:00:54 AM
i really do think the world has gone mad, but what does a terrorist look like now days?

we all have visions in our minds and thats how extremist what us to think, so they can brain wash the next recruit

i total agree with you Jacque that when the innocent gets treated like this  it hurts especially when its our own, but it would hurt even more if that aeroplane let some terrorist on board  who detonated a devise

hopefully your granddaughter has got over the shock and will be  enjoying her holiday soon








Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: loz on April 27, 2013, 07:55:36 AM
Yes and at security we generally do what we are told. If he requested the child go through first then who is going to argue...

Me as a mother and a parent! I would have brought the security to a standstill and I bet every mother/parent in the queue would of followed suit. It is obvious that it is a training issue, something that should be rolled out across the board.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Ray1951 on April 27, 2013, 08:07:15 AM
Up until now, terrorists haven't (to our knowledge) used children but we could put nothing past them ! There are people who will argue that all these security checks "are for our own good", personally I don't.  To put a small child through this ridiculous situation is not acceptable.  They end up upsetting the child, making the parents anxious and spoiling the excitment of the flight for the child.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 27, 2013, 08:32:16 AM
I totally understand the Security issue, but I cannot see the harm in a Mother carrying her child through Security..
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: KKOB on April 27, 2013, 09:43:09 AM
Next time they should put the toddler in a Burka and see what happens.  ;)
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: John H on April 27, 2013, 17:21:09 PM
Is there an ongoing industrial dispute between the security staff and their employers?
A few years ago we flew from Edinburgh when there was one in progress.
The behaviour of the security staff was very bad. They prolonged every passenger's check and one frail looking man who must have been in his 80's was subjected to a very public 'frisk'.
Additionally any member of the security staff who left the search area was put through the full check on re-entering. This included them being checked by their colleagues using the hand held wand detector.There was a lot of coming and going by the staff.
This was a very unpleasant experience for all passengers and did nothing for the reputation of Edinburgh Airport.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Scunner on April 27, 2013, 18:05:36 PM
Conversely, having spent much of my life flying out of Heathrow/Gatwick/Luton, we find the staff at Edinburgh Airport (in all commercial and non-commerical roles) to be refreshingly friendly.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Brianbern on April 28, 2013, 12:28:23 PM
People have been known to hide contraband inside baby nappies & on their children so in the long run it's safer for all of us. We travelled with our daughters from the ages of 8 months & 11 months & they never minded going through security may have been better for Mum to go 1st then the wee one would have known there was nothing to be afraid of.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: GordonA on April 28, 2013, 18:05:24 PM
In reply to the 'Header Question', what DOES a terrorist look like ?? Not so many years ago, weapons were being moved around parts of Ireland in the compartments in babies prams, trust me, I know !! !! I can understand why a loving, & doting Grandmother would feel aggrieved at the search, but, unfortunately, these things do still happen. Hope your family enjoy the rest of their vacation.   :D
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 28, 2013, 21:40:56 PM
I did say I had no problem with Security, my Granddaughter was not in a pram, does not wear a nappy, so where was the problem in her being carried through by her Mother.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: BernieTeyze on April 29, 2013, 03:18:09 AM
I agree jacqui, she should have been allowed to have her mother with her. It must have been very scarey for her,bless her. I would have been less than happy myself if it was one of mine.
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: jsp51 on April 29, 2013, 19:58:46 PM
I enclose a picture taken in the airport.... Does she really look like a criminal.

Don't know, What does a criminal look like??
Title: Re: Does this picture look like a Terrorist to you??
Post by: Hamlet on April 29, 2013, 20:13:11 PM
Surely common sense should have prevailed here, one of the parents should have gone through first then the child follows towards someone she knew, the parent.