Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: smccann248 on August 27, 2013, 23:55:07 PM
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I was wondering if anyone has booked an apartment from a guy called Brian Chambers on holidays lettings in the Calis area? If so was the experience positive or negative?
I would be grateful for any information or reviews etc?
I have booked an apartment this guy and am now worried about my booking and our holiday since I discovered that this guy is a con man?
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He tells people he owns the properties that he is listing for rent (he owns nothing, not even a tent)
I have heard of people arriving from Dalaman for their holidays and no apartment and no Brian (oh, and no refund)
I'm not even sure if Brian Chambers is his real name, he uses so many.
Not sure if that makes him a conman?
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If he is advertisin on holiday lettings then i would contact them with these details, as in our eyes they are a reputable company and i thought people were vetted before advertising with them.
These sort of people need to be caught and taken off companies like this.
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If he is advertisin on holiday lettings then i would contact them with these details, as in our eyes they are a reputable company and i thought people were vetted before advertising with them.
These sort of people need to be caught and taken off companies like this.
Holiday Lettings do not 'vet' any advertisers, I advertise on there and all they do is confirm your email address plus PayPal or credit card details so that they can collect their commission.
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I have booked an apartment this guy and am now worried about my booking and our holiday since I discovered that this guy is a con man?
Nothing to worry about, unless of course you want to take the chance of arriving at Dalaman at some god forsaken hour and finding out your first job is sorting out somewhere to stay for your holiday.
I hope you haven't parted with any money - if you have then it may be a case of putting it down to experience and finding alternative accommodation.
The guy is pond life...
JF
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Thanks for that information Hamlet, it makes us more aware of what we rent in the future, we always try to see the apartment first and meet the people who own it, or if not possible speak to the person who mantains the complex to confirm who the owner is, i think we will stick to this in the future, but fortunately we have found some lovely owners at the moment who we love renting from :)
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I'm grateful to you all for your comments and advice.
I am aware that Holiday Lettings don't vet although I have been renting holiday apartments from them for several years now, in Spain, Portugal, Canary Islands and Calis beach and have never had a problem until now.
Brian Chambers lists about 10 or so properties in the Fethiye Calis area although only since January 13, it is noticeable that none of his properties attract reviews. The properties are also listed on holiday lettings partners site trip advisor.
I have already paid a £50 deposit, which I am now resigned to losing, although the booking was made using payment protection where holiday lettings claim they forward the money 48 hrs after you arrive at the apartment. They claim that they will refund you your money if you dont get access to the apartment. I have never used this method in previous transactions with holiday lettings although assumed this safety net would protect me.
I am surprised, given the number of properties that Brian Chambers lists, that no one else seems to have complained about him.
I am now in the position where I am travelling with my wife to Calis on the 30th Sep to the 7th Oct and need to find an alternative apartment in the Calis Beach area.
Grateful for all your response and comments.
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Have a look here http://www.calisvilla.co.uk/ (http://www.calisvilla.co.uk/)
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It seems that there are a few scams going on at the moment. Last week I sent an enquiry to an owner via Owners Direct, again a reputable company who we've used before. I Received what seemed a genuine reply and all seemed ok. 3 days later I received an email, apparently from the owner, who we've never met, telling me she was stuck in the Phillipines, having had her bag and passport stolen. She had temporary documents issued to leave the country but couldn't because she had no money to pay her hotel bill and the manager was refusing to let her leave. I was asked if I could loan her the money and she assured me she would pay me back when she returned to the UK!! I assumed that her account had been hacked in someway and ignored the email. There was also a mobile phone number which I also haven't tried ringing in case it's one of these numbers you ring that then charges you a fortune and it's not the same number that's on the Owners Direct site. I have made the lady in question aware in the hope that it is really a case of a hacked account that she can sort out and not her trying to scam.
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I just googled our Villa and found it listed on a site called Perfect Choice Villas.
The listing is word-for-word identical to our listing on CalisVilla.co.uk and it uses the same pictures.
I certainly didn't agree to it being listed on this site and I am not really sure what would happen if someone tried to book the Villa through this "Agent".
The owner of the site is listed as Murat Aşkın and they appear to have offices in Fethiye.
I will be contacting the site to ask them to remove us ......... does anyone know if they are anything to do with Mr James and can some one tell me where he lists his ghost properties so I can check if we are on there as well ???
Ta.
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Yes and the "Calis Beach" info page is 100% written by me and stolen from my website!!!
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Have just received an email from the lady in question and her account has indeed been hacked, the poor woman is mortified and the same email has been sent to everyone she has ever emailed!!! What is wrong with these people >:(
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Lynn i think you will find that that people stuck in the phillipines is a scam, as i have had friends of mine asking me on a email
saying they are stuck there, had there passports and money stolen,and need a 1000 pounds to get home,
and my friends are in the UK, and know nothing about it, but the rat who sent it as a simular email, so folks[ BEWARE]
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My neıghbours emaıl account was hacked and we were all told she was stuck ın Cyprus wıth no money and had been robbed of her handbag ect ect. She was actually sıttıng ın her garden.
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Brian Chambers is using the name Brian James currently on Facebook. Beware. I've never known someone need to have so many made up names...
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Could you give me a link Shaun to the holiday lettings properties he is renting?
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I know from my time in calis that a lot of owners let their properties on long lets and then they keep getting sublet and sublet and sublet.
My friend gets roughly £200 per month then somebody is creaming of the big money from tourist lets.
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Is this the voice of experience I wonder. :-\
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Keith.
Have a look at the "property and turkey" open group on facebook.
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You could look joy lettings.com but the web site is not working for me.
Type in reference SS8A which is in Seaside Apartments.
If you have trouble with the website and but would still like to find out about it, message me on here and I will find out about it for you.
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Keith.
Have a look at the "property and turkey" open group on facebook.
I can confirm that page does not belong to Brian James/chambers/ethrington etc etc..
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The Brian James mentality - fancies himself as a bit of a gangster I think
(http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/sawnoff.jpg)
Property & Turkey is our good friend Yusuf's site, like the rental sites he can't help the dregs his website sometimes attracts.
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Property & Turkey is our good friend Yusuf's site, like the rental sites he can't help the dregs his website sometimes attracts.
Well actually he can - especially when its pointed out to him who the advertiser is. Shades of Pontius Pilate...
If he chooses to allow scum like this to advertise - when its well within his capabilities as the site owner to bin them - them surely we must then question his motives as site owner?
They guy is a predator on holidaymakers and a member of this forum allows him to advertise? Hmmm... good friend, work it out for yorselves.
JF
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Property & Turkey is our good friend Yusuf's site, like the rental sites he can't help the dregs his website sometimes attracts.
Well actually he can - especially when its pointed out to him who the advertiser is. Shades of Pontius Pilate...
If he chooses to allow scum like this to advertise - when its well within his capabilities as the site owner to bin them - them surely we must then question his motives as site owner?
They guy is a predator on holidaymakers and a member of this forum allows him to advertise? Hmmm... good friend, work it out for yorselves.
JF
Couldn't agree more. I recall saying exactly this to him on CBF but he wouldn't do anything about it
http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/forum/expat_property_owners_q_and_a_forum/a_word_warning_ownersrenters...._50010.msg306933.html#msg306933
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Most people who rent out directly will supply you with a booking form/agreement with their personal details on, if not do not book.
If you go through Holiday Lettings or Villa Renters and pay money via their systems you should have some redress through them.
They may not vet but they earn money through the transaction process and you should have your paypal buyers assurance.
Most people are honest and it is just the minority who prefer to extract money via fraud then do a honest day's work.
If you take sensible precautions you will be OK.
I hope no meney was lost & you quickly sort out your holiday & have a fantastic time.
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Property & Turkey is our good friend Yusuf's site, like the rental sites he can't help the dregs his website sometimes attracts.
Well actually he can - especially when its pointed out to him who the advertiser is. Shades of Pontius Pilate...
If he chooses to allow scum like this to advertise - when its well within his capabilities as the site owner to bin them - them surely we must then question his motives as site owner?
They guy is a predator on holidaymakers and a member of this forum allows him to advertise? Hmmm... good friend, work it out for yorselves.
JF
Couldn't agree more. I recall saying exactly this to him on CBF but he wouldn't do anything about it
http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/forum/expat_property_owners_q_and_a_forum/a_word_warning_ownersrenters...._50010.msg306933.html#msg306933
Yusuf - you need to take heed because I too feel the same way. You have been told that there is a lot of evidence to support that this man is a fraudster and bully. You really aren't doing yourself any favours by continuing to deal with this man.
I'm currently looking for a property in Fethiye and I have looked at your site but I wont use it whilst you knowingly continue business with such people. It genuinely brings your own integrity into question.
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I'm still telling people to steer clear of him despite his silly hate campaign against me on his many FB pages..... I warn them to stay away from him AND anyone who deals with him OR he deals with simply because as has been said if he's using other website with the owner knowing full well what this piece of cr*p (Brian Chambers or whatever he's calling himself today) is like then IMHO they are not really much better, probably getting a cut!
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Yes I saw all the ranting about you Ceni, it's all a little sad really. Same as me, if he knew how to do it he'd be dangerous. He is saying he now has my email address and I can expect a visit - how does that work, from an email address!!! If he uses the email address to email me, I'll send him my home address by return.
Oh, and another hateful and hurtful comment - he sent my photo to several friends in the UK and one commented that I looked like I was in the BNP, and they all found that quite funny.
It's so pathetic it's almost comical. But ultimately it's just tragic :D
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I know, I can imagine what he said, he blocked me and I just can't be bothered signing in as someone else to look at it.
I'm still waiting for either his so called brilliant? Turkish and UK lawyers to get in touch, in fact I invited them to, but to date from him it's just all wind, water and wasted air.
I've re-posted my warning about him on my facebook page again.
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Property & Turkey is our good friend Yusuf's site, like the rental sites he can't help the dregs his website sometimes attracts.
Well actually he can - especially when its pointed out to him who the advertiser is. Shades of Pontius Pilate...
If he chooses to allow scum like this to advertise - when its well within his capabilities as the site owner to bin them - them surely we must then question his motives as site owner?
They guy is a predator on holidaymakers and a member of this forum allows him to advertise? Hmmm... good friend, work it out for yorselves.
JF
Couldn't agree more. I recall saying exactly this to him on CBF but he wouldn't do anything about it
http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/forum/expat_property_owners_q_and_a_forum/a_word_warning_ownersrenters...._50010.msg306933.html#msg306933 (http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/forum/expat_property_owners_q_and_a_forum/a_word_warning_ownersrenters...._50010.msg306933.html#msg306933)
Over the past ten years or so CBF has done a pretty good job of identifying scammers and fraudsters - not all of them - but certainly those that come to the attention of its members. CBF has also done a pretty good job of then highlighting these individuals or companies in order to protect its members from falling victim to these low lifes.
By refusing to consider any action against this fraudster, he is not just letting himself down, he is letting other forum members down.
JF
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I was surprised to read about this as I though Yusuf was one of the good guys. There is no way I would use him in the future and the publicity he is now receiving on this Forum with 10,000 member will be devastating, members here have long memories and also, lots of friends, time he woke up and smelled the Turkish Coffee.
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Just a warning - I do realise this is an old topic but Brian James AKA Brian Chambers AKA Brian Jones, is STILL operating in the Fethiye area, working illegally for Fethiye Rentals,who have recently changed their name to MUGLA HOMES. I wonder why...
Still targeting single ladies looking to rent, still as abusive when they don't fall for his paper thin cons.
BRIAN CHAMBERS - AVOID
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(http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/colmoor2.jpg)
Oh, Brian Errington and Brian Colmoor are two other aliases. Why does he need so many aliases ;) ;)
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I thought he had God on his side now! :o
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God gave up on Brian Chambers long ago.
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Yeah, He had his work cut-out concentrating on Scunner. ;)
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I understand Brian Chambers is safely locked up where he belongs - in prison in Esen. According to my source he will also be deported upon release. A good day for Fethiye and for Turkey is coming.
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Good Stuff, Still the change man and fish man to go but 1 of 3 is a good start. :)
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I understand Brian Chambers is safely locked up where he belongs - in prison in Esen. According to my source he will also be deported upon release. A good day for Fethiye and for Turkey is coming.
Perhaps he will be selling a week's holidays in "Quiet, get-away-from-it-all retreats in a secluded location in Esen. Chill out for a week without the distractions of alcohol, TV, mobile phones and all the paraphernalia of hectic modern life."
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Yesss. and hopefully a few more children in the world will be safe from him. Oh sorry that was a rumour... (not)
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Dont get your hopes up yet.!!!!! Apparently or ALLEGEDLY he was out on weekend release last weekend.It most certainly looked like him beardless again poking about the garden of the villa he rented ??????? in Uzumlu. There couldnt be a BJ double surely.!!!!!!!