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Title: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: Diane Bond on December 23, 2015, 09:17:55 AM
I have never added to Calis Beach Forum but when I saw this I just had to add it - its actually talking about Kalkan but it may as well be Calis - this is so true and as we all know the Media scaremongering will effect the visitors to Turkey so we need to get this out there as we know what a wonderful place Calis & Fethiye are and how wonderful friendly and hard working our Turkish friends are - Roll on 2016 cant wait to get back to our place in Paradise already booked four times next year
http://kalkansecrets.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/the-truth-about-terrorism-in-kalkan.html?m=1
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: Rana on December 23, 2015, 09:40:04 AM
Fantastic article Diane, glad you shared it. Unfortunately too many people brainwashed by media and can't and don't think for themselves. Let's hope the people wake up for 2016. They are missing out in my view  :)
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: JohnF on December 23, 2015, 09:55:32 AM
as we all know the Media scaremongering will effect the visitors to Turkey

Just curious, what scaremongering has there been in the media? 

I know the Daily Mail is always anti Turkey and will print any old bollox if shows Turkey in a bad light, but it has been doing that for years.  The media coverage I've seen has generally been fairly well balanced, and a lot less biased than it could be.  Sometimes you have to accept that beyond a particular area (bubble?) there are bad things happening in a country.

JF
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: Diane Bond on December 23, 2015, 13:01:18 PM

I agree John there are bad things happening in all countries but I just thought that this Article was so spot on - To be honest don't want to post any link to these Media headlines as these are too misleading  but there were some awful ones especially after last years awful Tunisia terror attack .  Lets just wave the flag for holidaying in Turkey as we all know how kind generous and friendly the majority of the Turks are and I for one will be coming and bringing friends as always to enjoy the Scenery Food Culture Generosity & Kindness Oh and of course the wonderful weather for years to come.   

Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: Colwyn on December 23, 2015, 13:19:47 PM
the Daily Mail ... will print any old bollox if shows Turkey in a bad light,
... or gays, or trade unionists, or local government, or the public sector, or Muslims, or immigrants, or people on benefits, or ... just about the whole of humanity except for the few they suppose to read the Daily Mail - and those nice Nazis, of course..
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: JohnF on December 23, 2015, 14:01:37 PM
To be honest don't want to post any link to these Media headlines as these are too misleading

Humour me, post some.  I genuinely believe Turkey has got off lightly by most of the western media so it'd be interesting to see some examples I may have missed.

JF
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: JohnF on December 23, 2015, 14:05:03 PM
the Daily Mail ... will print any old bollox if shows Turkey in a bad light,
... or gays, or trade unionists, or local government, or the public sector, or Muslims, or immigrants, or people on benefits, or ... just about the whole of humanity except for the few they suppose to read the Daily Mail - and those nice Nazis, of course..

I dont think that's entirely accurate Colwyn, I'm fairly sure the Daily Mail once ran an article that said Himmler was a very bad man.  I'm also sure they said Max Mosley was a bad man too.

JF
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: Diane Bond on December 23, 2015, 14:26:30 PM
This is not a joke Can we stay on the relevent subject Wonderful Turkey!!!
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: Anne on December 23, 2015, 15:47:09 PM
No, it's not a joke Diane but we tend to have an awful lot of tongue in cheek comments on our forum.
You will soon get used to the different personalities on here and come to love it as much as we all do
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: strange on December 23, 2015, 16:18:51 PM
Personally I didn't think Colwyn was joking with his comments about the Daily Mail. That's exactly my perception of them as well.
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: WordBird on December 23, 2015, 16:44:58 PM
as we all know the Media scaremongering will effect the visitors to Turkey

Just curious, what scaremongering has there been in the media? 

I know the Daily Mail is always anti Turkey and will print any old bollox if shows Turkey in a bad light, but it has been doing that for years.  The media coverage I've seen has generally been fairly well balanced, and a lot less biased than it could be.  Sometimes you have to accept that beyond a particular area (bubble?) there are bad things happening in a country.

JF

The Daily Express has run almost identical stories this year telling people not to come to Turkey this year because of terrorism....or go to Egypt...or Spain.... And I *mean* almost identical as in they are using the same base copy for each one.

Why? Because if they can scare people into staying at home in the UK rather than go abroad, their circulation figures don't drop as much over the holiday season. I'm not speculating here - a friend of mine on a national newsdesk has told me it is a deliberate ploy.
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: scorcher on December 23, 2015, 16:50:09 PM
Agreed Diane - not a joke at all. For your information this Kalkan link was posted on here about 10 days or so ago.
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: JohnF on December 23, 2015, 18:22:35 PM
as we all know the Media scaremongering will effect the visitors to Turkey

Just curious, what scaremongering has there been in the media? 

I know the Daily Mail is always anti Turkey and will print any old bollox if shows Turkey in a bad light, but it has been doing that for years.  The media coverage I've seen has generally been fairly well balanced, and a lot less biased than it could be.  Sometimes you have to accept that beyond a particular area (bubble?) there are bad things happening in a country.

JF

The Daily Express has run almost identical stories this year telling people not to come to Turkey this year because of terrorism....or go to Egypt...or Spain.... And I *mean* almost identical as in they are using the same base copy for each one.

Why? Because if they can scare people into staying at home in the UK rather than go abroad, their circulation figures don't drop as much over the holiday season. I'm not speculating here - a friend of mine on a national newsdesk has told me it is a deliberate ploy.

Ok, so what you are saying is that this is a plot by the newspaper industry to boost ailing circulation figures?  Seriously?

On the basis that you don't normally post rubbish, I just floated your theory past a News Editor of a national daily (mate of mine for 25yrs plus).  He liked it.  In fact, he liked it so much he's going to raise it at their editorial meeting in the morning.  Actually he didn't.  He laughed like a drain as I knew he would and suggested that too much Xmas spirit had been consumed by someone - or that someone was possibly being wound up (he used different words, newspaperly words that I can't remember  ;)). 

He's a good pal and I like to cheer him up with little nuggets like this.

Anyway, back to the original point.  The current advice from the FCO when travelling to Turkey is:

"There is a high threat from terrorism.  Attacks could be indiscriminate and could affect places visited by foreigners." 

While resorts like Kalkan, Fethiye, Calis etc are unlikely (at this time) to be the subjects of an attack, the threat is still there.  So you have to ask, are they scaremongering or are they simply regurgitating what the British government say?

Over the past year there is a lot that could have been published in respect of Turkey and its relationship with IS, but it hasn't been.  Will that change in the next few months...  who knows.   There is also a lot that could have been published relating to the number of folks killed by the Polis, by MiT and by "other forces" (to use an Erdoganism) - but it hasn't.

I stand by my original statement, recent coverage has been fairly well balanced - the sporadic sensationalist headlines and ill informed articles written about Turkey are nothing new, it's been that way for years. 

JF

Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: WordBird on December 23, 2015, 21:19:39 PM
No. I'm not saying it's a plot at all. How ridiculous.

Your national newspaper mate versus mine.
You clearly believe yours, as I do mine. Don't see why the 25 years plus is relevant, but for the record I've known mine for around the same length of time.

Anyway. As you say, back to the topic.
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: JohnF on December 23, 2015, 21:26:57 PM
No. I'm not saying it's a plot at all. How ridiculous.

Plot, policy, connivance... whatever you want to call it, maybe you should reread your second paragraph.

Aye, anecdotal arguments with a big dod of hearsay thrown in. Magic  :)

JF
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: sadler on December 23, 2015, 21:40:21 PM
C'on folks, it's Christmas.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: KKOB on December 23, 2015, 22:13:17 PM
Yep, we're only a day away from the celebration of one of the world's biggest conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: sadler on December 23, 2015, 22:32:14 PM
So are you taking a holiday and relaxing KKOB? Or are you standing by your principles?  ???
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: Highlander on December 23, 2015, 22:35:16 PM
Yep, we're only a day away from the celebration of one of the world's biggest conspiracy theories.

What conspiracy occurred on Christmas Eve then    ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: KKOB on December 23, 2015, 22:46:17 PM
So are you taking a holiday and relaxing KKOB? Or are you standing by your principles?  ???

Principles have nothing to do with it, but as it happens, I'm working 12 hour shifts all through Christmas and the New Year.

Have a good 'un.  ;)
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: sadler on December 23, 2015, 22:48:21 PM
Ahhhh feel really sorry for you, but I bet the bank balance is looking good! Happy Christmas and New Year to you and yours too.  ;D
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: KKOB on December 23, 2015, 22:52:12 PM
Ahhhh feel really sorry for you, but I bet the bank balance is looking good! Happy Christmas and New Year to you and yours too.  ;D

No need to feel sorry. I do it through choice and, as I'm salaried, it makes no difference.

Best wishes to you and yours too.
  :)
Title: Re: Wonderful Turkey
Post by: sadler on December 23, 2015, 22:52:53 PM
  :)  :)  :)