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Title: Quitting smoking
Post by: Karennina on January 09, 2016, 10:24:53 AM
If anyone is thinking of or like me trying to quit smoking Vype have a 25% off offer on on their website if you subscribe to them before hand...
I have just bought their starter kit normally £14.99 at the mo  £11.29  & free delivery...
I am very pleased with mine its one of the best or maybe the best ecigs i have tried so far in my never ending quest to quit!   :)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: davybill on January 09, 2016, 11:08:35 AM
Keep trying you will get there in the end, I did 40years ago,
and I tried a few times to give up,
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: patrice on January 09, 2016, 11:30:10 AM
You can do it I gave up 3 years ago  and wished I had given it up years ago. Good luck Karennina
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: KKOB on January 09, 2016, 11:54:27 AM
I was on 60 a day and gave them up 32 years ago. No, vapes, patches or chewing gum.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Karennina on January 09, 2016, 12:08:16 PM
Thanks everyone for your good wishes...i have had loads of attempts over the years at quitting, i am very ashamed to admit ( even to myself) that it is now 40 years ago this year that I first started to smoke...
I am not a heavy smoker, bizarrely i cant stand the smell of it in the day but get a glass of wine or beer in my hand and I chain smoke!
Really well done to all the folk who have successfully managed to quit   :)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Lotty on January 09, 2016, 12:09:28 PM
I gave up years ago with no alternatives, but by carrying an opened pack around with me for a year. The choice was only mine, my personal challenge and I was so proud of each clean day one at a time, I just couldn't waste that effort and give in.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: kevin3 on January 09, 2016, 12:20:09 PM
  Snap KKOB. I was on 60 a day.  32 years ago I started my own business and stopped smoking on the same day, my birthday.

  I kept on thinking about the effect on my family, the cost, my health, and the amount of extra Tax I was handing to the Government.

  So I picked a date, my birthday, and went for it.  And it worked.      :)   You have to tell yourself to do it I think, it's in the mind. Good Luck.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: davybill on January 09, 2016, 14:08:24 PM
Yes when you pack it up you wonder why you didn't
a long time ago,
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: mary62 on January 09, 2016, 15:06:47 PM
I was on 60-70 a day. I went to fagends and tried the tablets and gave up in Oct 2014. Had a relaps in june 2015 and went back to fagends. I was on the nicotine patches and they worked, to the extent that I would forget to wear them!!!
I feel fantastic and proud of myself as I had smoked for over 40 years. The other thing is I don't know how I managed to find the money to fund this habit.
Good luck Karennina....you CAN do it.  ;)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: lynne on January 09, 2016, 17:52:10 PM
Good luck to you.  Champix was the way for me - nothing short of  miracle.  18 months and  can truly say it's the best thing I have ever achieved.  I can't bear the smell of them now.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 09, 2016, 17:59:51 PM
Good Luck  Karennina. It, s been 10 years this February for me. After several attempts I finally managed it with the patches.  No one believed I would or even could.( One of the comments was your mrs dont smoke em she eats em)..oh ye of little faith..
Keep on keeping on, and one of these days you might suprise yourself and the others and crack it. I remember my mam saying to me they will be a fiver a pack before you know it...now they are a tenner. I couldnt afford to start again even if I wanted to.
The very best of Luck to you.x
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: KKOB on January 09, 2016, 19:15:10 PM
If I remember correctly it was when a packet of cigarettes hit £1 that was a turning point for me.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: kayakebab on January 10, 2016, 07:30:08 AM
I tried many times, but suddenly had a moment when I realised I just didn't want to be a smoker anymore. I used patches, starting highest and gradually reducing over 10 weeks.
I also joined a quitters forum, the most important bit I remember was that each craving only lasts a couple of minutes, get through that and you've cracked it.
My dad is a vaper , has been for 3 years, has no nicotine in it now, but can't break the habit.
Personally I think it's ridiculous and worry what's in it, but he looks ( and smells ) so much better.
The biggest success has been my sister. She did a day course that she got on Groupon a year ago for £100.
She's tried everything and none of us expected it to work.
They  make you smoke your usual amount all day during the course.
By the end of the day everyone felt ridiculous and didn't want anymore but had to finish them.
I think it's based on Alan Carrs methods, no hypnosis, just completely changed the way she saw her relationship with cigarettes.
Good luck Karen, you can do it.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: KKOB on January 10, 2016, 07:39:00 AM

My dad is a vaper , has been for 3 years, has no nicotine in it now, but can't break the habit.
Personally I think it's ridiculous and worry what's in it,

It's going to be interesting in 10, 15 maybe 20 years when scientists announce what disease has been started or exacerbated by the use of the various forms off smoking substitutes.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: kenkay on January 10, 2016, 10:39:31 AM
I gave up in 1998 after a 37 year nicotine habit which ran through cigarettes, pipe and Hamlets. At the time I was on a sixty quid a week cocktail of Condor and Hamlet. I paid 55 quid to a hypnotist and have not touched tobacco of any sort since.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Mr Toky on January 10, 2016, 18:02:39 PM
I was a smoker of up to 30 a day till quitting a GOOD few years back. The one thing i would question as KKOB has touched on is how safe are these new vaper/liquid smoking habits (Only time will tell as with other things that were deemed safe at the time) and have now have major health issues. It also started of with a small pen like device and now seems people have smoking gun like devices.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Scunner on January 10, 2016, 19:03:39 PM
One of the other things that was deemed safe (and even healthy) being smoking!
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: sadler on January 10, 2016, 19:11:19 PM
I found it really easy to give up smoking. I didn't start in the first place!   ;) :o ;D
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Lotty on January 10, 2016, 21:18:18 PM
Correct Keith. In the forties my mother's doctor recommended cigarettes for her nerves. She suffered with chest problems most of her life, but sadly she was hooked.  :(
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Scunner on January 10, 2016, 21:33:41 PM
I gave up in 2009 not long after moving back from Turkey. I used Champix which really worked for me - I know it doesn't with everyone. I still get the occasional "cigarette moment" impulse now, 6 years on. Maybe 2 a month (and 7 a day when in Turkey).

I'd never smoke one though - mainly because I know how easy it is to slip back in, and how bloody hard it is to break free.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Highlander on January 10, 2016, 21:54:12 PM
If you don't want your children and grandchildren to have to deal with your premature death seriously consider giving up.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: JohnF on January 10, 2016, 22:59:43 PM
Hey...  lets not stop at smoking.

What about obesity?  Almost as big a killer as smoking according some sources - so that’s cream cakes and fatty foods out the window.

But wait, there's more.  New guidelines in the UK suggest no more than 14 units of alcohol per week (for a male) which equates to six beers. 

Oops, almost forgot  :) red or processed meat.  No more than 70g a day or you'll die a horrible death.

Soon as I finish this 227g burger, topped 2 slices of mozzarella and pork scratchings, I'm gonna wipe out that box of twelve Krispy Kremes.  All washed down with a dozen cans of Tennents lager.

Then I'll crack open another carton of duty free Camel Lights.

Bliss...

JF

 
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Highlander on January 10, 2016, 23:03:39 PM
I bet you have lots of eggs for your breakfast as well  :)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Lotty on January 10, 2016, 23:06:28 PM
Softly scrambled and sprinkled with fresh Parmesan, black pepper and Malden salt  on whole meal toast - simply divine!  :P :D
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: JohnF on January 10, 2016, 23:08:48 PM
Yep, cooked in goose fat, with streaky bacon, black pudding and lorne sausage.  I do try and keep things healthy though - I only have one slice of fried bread and one tattie scone.  Oh and low sodium brown sauce.

JF
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: kevin3 on January 10, 2016, 23:22:47 PM


   The best thing I ever gave up was listening to the experts.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Scunner on January 10, 2016, 23:32:05 PM
Softly scrambled and sprinkled with fresh Parmesan, black pepper and Malden salt  on whole meal toast - simply divine!  :P :D

I am a big fan of black pepper. Strangely, scrambled eggs is one of a very small number of things where I prefer white pepper  :)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: kevin3 on January 11, 2016, 00:15:46 AM


  Tinned chopped tomatoes, warmed in a pan with a drop of cold tea, served over buttered wholemeal toast, smothered in black pepper.

  Heaven.  The mention of lorne sausage and black pudding got me dribbling.     :)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Karennina on January 11, 2016, 22:35:44 PM
Hindsight is a wonderful thing I wish i had never stsrted 40 years ago but hey ho i did and thats that,
I have quit loads of times but always gone back on it, this time I want it to be for good.
I have also gone down the ' how safe are the e cigarettes' but for me at the its helping me hugely...
I have also joined a text messsging service which sends me encouragement tips im finding that a great help too...
Day five today am still determined at the mo!
Gob smacked to hear that smoking was once upon a time was deemed good for you!
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Scunner on January 11, 2016, 22:57:54 PM
Oh yes


(http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/hommedia.ashx?id=10176&size=Medium)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: davybill on January 12, 2016, 10:14:26 AM
Hey...  lets not stop at smoking.

What about obesity?  Almost as big a killer as smoking according some sources - so that’s cream cakes and fatty foods out the window.

But wait, there's more.  New guidelines in the UK suggest no more than 14 units of alcohol per week (for a male) which equates to six beers. 

Oops, almost forgot   :) red or processed meat.  No more than 70g a day or you'll die a horrible death.

Soon as I finish this 227g burger, topped 2 slices of mozzarella and pork scratchings, I'm gonna wipe out that box of twelve Krispy Kremes.  All washed down with a dozen cans of Tennents lager.

Then I'll crack open another carton of duty free Camel Lights.

Bliss...

JF

 
Hope you didn't have salt on that food,its not good for you?
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: mary62 on February 11, 2016, 11:36:07 AM
How are you getting on with not smoking Karennina? Hope it's going well for you.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: micky mouse on February 11, 2016, 13:56:30 PM
Do not give up trying to stop as i had been a smoker from a teenager and i have not smoked now for two years now thanks to my cirro vape i am COPD and i dont wish that on anyone three different pumps.How ever,since stopping my breathing has much improved and i only need one pump now and of coarse theres the benefit of having all that extra money to spend which would normally go up in smoke and eventually kill you.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: kevin3 on February 11, 2016, 16:59:33 PM


  The best way to stop smoking is to light one up in front of the President.    You won't see another fag 'til the end of your 16 year sentence.    ;)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Karennina on February 14, 2016, 18:35:18 PM
Hi Mary its going surprisingly well! Im 5 and a half weeks  smoke free now and still very determined to keep going...I signed up to a text service via the nhs that helped me hugely and of course the vaping fag helped me loads tho im doing that much less now...Iv had no alcohol since I quit as i know that is a trigger for me, im very ashamed to say I used to chain smoke when i drank...
Hopefully as more time goes by that will become easier and I will be able to have a glass ( or two) of wine without thinking about smoking   :) thank you Mary for asking  :)
Sorry to hear that Mickey Mouse re the copd, il be honest I would not be suprised if i am alittle that way, I too smoked from my teenage years, i had hoped my breathing would be a bit more better then what it is now but I suppose still early days and some weight that needs losing so may not all be down to smoking!
Interestingly my chloestrol has come down without me making any changes to my diet, one doctor had said in the past that chloestorol is harder to control if you are a smoker so that is really good....
Anyone else that may be trying to quit stivk with it as defo gets easier the more time goes by   :)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Scunner on February 14, 2016, 19:36:50 PM
Fabulous stuff Karen, keep it going :D
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: lynne on February 14, 2016, 19:57:30 PM
Karen, well done to you.  You have gone exactly the right way with not doing things that trigger the craving.  I also didn't drink when I gave up smoking.  I did have the very occasional Baileys but in the main, I didn't drink.  Now 18 months down the line I can drink without any thoughts of cigarettes.  It has actually taken around 18 months to start to feel the benefits of not smoking - my breathing is a huge amount better.  Unfortunately, I have put on weight but it feels like a small price to pay to be smoke free.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Karennina on February 14, 2016, 22:36:23 PM
Thank you Keith and Lynne  :)
That is great to hear Lynne that you can now have a drink without thinking about smoking, that is the point i want to get to defo!
Im sooo glad you said it took 18 months to feel the benefits of not smoking as i suppose i expected it to be more or less instant and it hasnt been...i know what you mean re the weight gain, i shall tackle that next...
Iv only just realised its 10.30 and iv not even thought about cigs and have not vaped at all today or tonight so it defo is no longer like constantly on my mind   :)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: patrice on February 15, 2016, 10:46:13 AM
Well done Karen I packed it up  4 years ago like you I  was often tempted  when I had a glass of wine in my hands but know I can have a drink without the yearning . So keep it up it is worth it in the end.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: mary62 on February 15, 2016, 14:35:12 PM
Well done Karennina, Keep up the good work....It's well worth it and just think what you can do with the money saved from not smoking or drinking  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Colwyn on February 15, 2016, 14:46:36 PM
just think what you can do with the money saved from not smoking or drinking  ;D  ;)
I bought an espresso machine and developed a taste for the best olives. I wanted a regular taste treat for the tongue without piling on the inches. Since Hilary and I gave up at the same time we also resolved to take two foreign holidays a year instead of one - something we have dutifully carried out for the last 12 years. [But I didn't give up drinking!]
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: kevin3 on February 15, 2016, 20:28:03 PM

  I watched a discussion on TV today about the Government's proposal to ban smoking in HM Prisons.
  The bleeding hearts and penal reformers were almost in tears at the prospect. "What are they going
  to do all day without cigarettes".?   Some hard work might take their minds off smoking and pay for their keep.!!
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: kevin3 on February 17, 2016, 12:43:06 PM

  From  3rd November Turkey no longer provides free medicines to Lung Cancer patients that have smoked.

  Liver's next. ??          :(
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Stuart T on February 17, 2016, 13:35:54 PM
Sadly, I guess that means those who have at some point smoked (long before they put cancer in cigarettes) and since given up will also be refused free treatment.

Wonder how far back they'll go........there are many ex smokers encouraging Karennina who gave up years ago.







Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Lotty on February 17, 2016, 15:06:12 PM
How would they prove that though. Going back a long time? The governments have made a fortune out of smoking. What is advertising if not encouragement. They condoned it then so therefore they should put some money back to fund this care.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: JohnF on February 17, 2016, 15:29:12 PM
From  3rd November Turkey no longer provides free medicines to Lung Cancer patients that have smoked.

It was this month Kevin, 3rd Feb - and it looks like there may be a few challenges raised in court over it:

"Ankara Bar Association head Hakan Canduran stated that they would take the regulation, which he said violates constitutionally and internationally-protected health rights, to court."

Devrim Güngör, an associate law professor at Ankara University, also criticized the change.

“One-sided and arbitrary changes in the provisions of general health insurance are unlawful. A person cannot just be left to die based on their mistakes or personal preferences. Many diseases are caused by unhealthy lifestyles. For example, this regulation could lead to hospitals asking for patients to meet weight criteria in order to fund medicines for cardiovascular disease patients.”.

HDN (http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/smokers-in-turkey-to-not-receive-free-cancer-medicine.aspx?pageID=238&nID=95309&NewsCatID=373)

JF
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Colwyn on February 17, 2016, 15:48:12 PM
Many diseases are caused by unhealthy lifestyles.
And not just diseases according to the Caliph in Ankara. Coal mining is an unhealthy lifestyle and can cause death and injury. And not just from mine collapses.

(http://s6.postimg.org/mnphtd2ch/Soma.jpg)

Erdogan aide helps security forces to protect the President from mourning miner.
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: Lotty on February 17, 2016, 15:49:41 PM
Totally agree with this JohnF - it's tantamount to punishing people for their lifestyles, how far will it go? There are so many things that influence our health. Some people will be affected by them but not others, it's total discrimination. Nobody deliberately goes out of their way to become ill. Outrageous!
Title: Re: Quitting smoking
Post by: kevin3 on February 17, 2016, 17:32:24 PM

  It's not difficult to figure out where the directive came from and I wasn't joking about the Livers. Boozers beware.       >:(