Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: Barry Lloyd on August 04, 2016, 08:13:08 AM
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Apologies if this has been discussed previously but what, in everyone's opinion, is the best tour operator for the fun safaris where everyone gets drenched? 3 of us went on one last year which was ok but not as much of a laugh as other jeeps who crossed our path. I'm fully up to speed on the "add on's" for footware, photos etc it's just asking where are we going to have the best laughs
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The Karacay Jeeps are suppose to be the best as they are proper jeeps and have seat belts so from the safety point of view they are usually the ones recommended.
However, unless you take out Hazardous Sports Insurance before you leave the U.K you have no cover in the event of an accident and will pay all your own expenses including flights home.
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Not much fun there then?.
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However, unless you take out Hazardous Sports Insurance before you leave the U.K you have no cover in the event of an accident and will pay all your own expenses including flights home.
Thanks Jaqui. I think I read your previous post on insurance. What if I wore my works hi-viz jacket??? :-)
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Regarding insurance when travelling on Jeep safari's, I think Jacqui is right here too many companies don't have it and just hope all goes well with no accidents. But as we all know accidents do happen and you will get no help from your UK insurance if anything goes wrong. My personal opinion is that I wouldn't go on a Jeep safari
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Not much fun there then?.
Yes, and no families devastated by the death of a family member on holiday either.
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O.K. Barry, Read this and look at the image of the father and daughter who died. Apparently with all the water being thrown around the driver got water in his eyes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051404/Jonothan-Charley-Pearce-die-crowded-Jeep-crash-Turkish-holiday.html
If that is not enough here are two more.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2665875/Two-British-women-killed-jeep-safari-car-crash-driven-Turkish-resort-popular-tourist-spot.html
http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/holiday-crash-widow-determined-case-tour-operator/story-12900114-detail/story.html
Just in case you did not know. A med-vac home starts at £29,000. I wonder would you even get into a car in the U.K knowing you are not insured? I bet not, but you would happily jump in a jeep and with a water pistol to stand up and squirt at other jeeps.
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Frightening Jacqui
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Think we'll be having second thoughts!!
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As much as I hate to say this I would ask to see their insurance for passenger liability. we have heard too many horror stories on this forum regarding Jeep safaris, so if it makes one family take note and look to another trip all is not in vain.
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Legless, none of them have full insurance. They may insure your for treatment in the State Hosptial in Calis. However, they will not cover any expenses such as Hotels, transport and most important flights home if you miss yours through being in Hosptial. There was a guy hurt last year in Oludeniz and his Mother in Law paid £29,000 to get him a medi-vac home to the U.K. His wife said she had no idea that extra cover was needed and that Jeep Sarafi, Paraglding, Quad Bikes (which he had hired) and in some cases Horse Riding are not covered by normal Travel Insurance. He actually died when he got home. It always amazes me that parents will make sure their kids are protected by insurance when travelling in cars in the U.K. However, once in Turkey they take them on Jeep Sarfari's not checking that their kids will not insured.
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Yes Jacqui, I know they have no insurance thats why I made that comment. It would then allow people to make their own mind up "should I, shouldn't I " most people would walk away if they had no insurance, but there are those that say It won't happen to me.
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I have read on T.A people saying that these companies have insurance, because they were shown the Policies, however, the "Policies" they were shown were in Turkish.
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So the general opinion on this forum is: "I wouldn't be seen dead on a jeep safari!".
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Or " I might be seen dead on a Jeep Safari "
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Wish I hadn't asked now :-(
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We're here to help Barry. !!! :)
Confused,?? You will be. ;)
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And some.
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Having seen and nearly been in a jeep safari crash i would strongly say dont do one.
It may look like fun but in reality it isnt.
http://www.calis-beach.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30439.20
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We did go on a jeep safari a couple of years ago and had a lovely day never laughed so much but the ride up the mountain was scary & I would not do it again!!!
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(https://s9.postimg.org/5r09whzbf/259_1aa.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5r09whzbf/)
I can highly recommend Team Joseph safari's fantastic day had with all my family and friends.Very safe and careful drivers.All the trucks have seat belts and proper seats so you are not squashed all day. Also a must do is the ring rafting at Saklikent what a laugh.
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This does not look like a jeep it looks a bit like a remodelled truck. There would still be no insurance cover no matter how safe you say it is.
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Gets good reviews on T.A ;)
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Looks like a fair bit of scaremongering going on here.
Firstly, from my memory the majority of incidents where folks have been killed/injured have involved jeeps/trucks that have had neither seat belts nor securely fitted roll bars. They have also been overcrowded and in at least one case the driver was pretty much amongst the passengers using large water pistols. I also believe the local authorities have clamped down, to the best of their abilities, on many of the rogue operators.
If you fancy one of these trips, have a look at what you'll be going out in - if its a manky old Landrover with no seat belts then give it a body swerve. If however it's a purpose built "road safari" truck like posted above then you may be missing out on a good fun filled day. Its a judgement call where you use your common sense.
Secondly, insurance. Contrary to what some on here have been claiming, with many companies you are covered for this type of activity as standard - its simple, check your policy. I'm with Virgin Travel Insurance and I'm covered - in fact not only am I covered for this as standard, I'm also covered for banana boating, abseiling, parascending over water, river tubing, mud buggying, go-karting and sleigh riding. Lapland here I come!
The one caveat I was told when I enquired (I was curious) was that it must be with a properly licensed operator - in the case of Turkey I would look for them to be registered with TURSAB. I had a look at a few other insurers (yeah, yeah, its a quiet day but I do fancy the sleigh riding :) ) and they're not that dissimilar to Virgin.
Incidentally, Hazardous Sports Insurance is exactly that - rock climbing, sky diving, micro light flying etc, etc. Not what is required for a properly organised and operated fun day out.
JF
EDIT: Not all insurers use the same criteria so if in doubt, check with your insurer yourself - as I've often said, never believe the old bollox you read on forums :)
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Certifications shown on their website - not sure how relevant they are.
http://www.fethiyejeepsafari.com/
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These companies will insure for Hosptial treatment in Turkey, but not for a medi-vac home, a flight home if you miss yours or extra hotel stays.
The man whose quad bike went over the cliff in Oludeniz had travel insurance, but he was not covered for Quad Biking. It was classed as a Hazarous sport and his wife was told that he should have got Hazardous Sports Insurance. She wrote that she was really annoyed her Travel Insurance would not cover any hospital treatment for her husband and the fact her Mother in Law had to pay £29,000 to have a med-vac back. It was sad that he died at home.
I have read many times people complaining that they did not know the were not covered on their Travel Insurance. One lady wrote that a gust of wind smashed her and her pilot pilot into the rocks when paraglidng. She paid for her own hospital treatment and wrote a warning to other to check out their policies. .
So, if you want to do any Jeep Safars, Paragiding, Quad Biking, best to check if you are covered, because it seems most Travel Insurance will not cover it. I have read mine and it also does not cover Hazardous Sports.
I am not here to argue. I am only writing what I have read over the years that people have had accidents and have no cover with their Travel Insurance. It is up to members to now go an check out their Travel Insurance Policies and see what they cover.
Not scaremongering, just common sense advice.
Note as H says...Not Sure.... So please make sure.
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You can't put an old head on young shoulders. I have done a lot of dangerous stuff when I was younger and never gave it a second thought. It is mostly when you get older you think of the dangers
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My daughter, who is young and has been many times to Turkey befoe she was married would not consider a jeep safari. We were coming back from Kalkan in the car and all of sudden two jeeps shot ot of the trees onto the road in front of us and Phil had to break hard. The Jeeps then got parallel on the (two way) road and all the passengers were standing up firing water pistols at each other. So, no seat belts on and I beleive one of the fatal accidents in Fethiye occurred when a driver got water in his eyes.
Does anyone think that their insurance would cover that?
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Thanks mac2010 on a positive post about the Jeep safari, I would say the toobin rings down sakilent are a great laugh & I almost managed to lose the wife but fortunately/un delete as appropriate the operator managed to grab her before she carried on down the river, sensible footwear advised for the whole day I would say. Had a great time I for one would do it again possibly in September when we are over with freinds.
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After much deliberation we have decided to go with Team Joseoh. Bumped into their convoy on Coca Calis who said it was the best, safest, most fun trip they had been on. I'll give our verdict once we've done it. Website says fully insured and ISO compliance so feel better doing but of dudillageniemce on it.
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After much deliberation we have decided to go with Team Joseoh. Bumped into their convoy on Coca Calis who said it was the best, safest, most fun trip they had been on. I'll give our verdict once we've done it. Website says fully insured and ISO compliance so feel better doing but of dudillageniemce on it.
Ersah, who owns/runs Team Joseph, is a friend of ours and I know how seriously he takes the whole safety issue, hence the certifications he has taken the trouble to obtain.
We actually bought our Land Rover off him - less of the 'manky old', JohnF! ;D - he was originally going to run a fleet of those instead but was aware of the bad rep many companies who use them for tours have. We've seen all the paperwork/receipts for the work he had done to bring it up to standard and t'other half used to work on the Landy we had in the UK so he knows what he's looking at mechanically.... We got a bloody good vehicle!
I'm sure Ersah has insisted on the same standards with the new truck and I hope you have a fantastic day out with him. :)
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Where do you book with team Joseph, Wordbird, please, have family coming out,
who want to try it.
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This is his website - email & phone number are on there and you can see the route etc. :)
http://fethiyejeepsafari.com/ (http://fethiyejeepsafari.com/)
By the way, for those who like the idea of a jeep safari but not the water fights/rowdier elements, some friends of ours have done 'The Alternative Jeep Safari' a couple of times and have thoroughly enjoyed it. It's a much more civilised expedition ;D and goes up to the lake/plateau outside Fethiye (can't for the life of me remember what it's called right at this moment), with lunch at a traditional Turkish family farm. They've had a great day each time.
I think they booked with Ali Baba, not sure who else does that one.
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the lake/plateau outside Fethiye (can't for the life of me remember what it's called right at this moment),
Goltarla Lake ?
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We actually bought our Land Rover off him - less of the 'manky old', JohnF! ;D - he was originally going to run a fleet of those instead but was aware of the bad rep many companies who use them for tours have.
Believe me, going back fifteen or so years, many of the Landrovers that used to do the tours and safaris were actually "manky" at best. From old bus seats in the back held in with pop riveted aluminium patches to tyres that a rookie traffic cop could ticket at sixty yards... it's no wonder there were so many deaths and injuries back then.
JF
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the lake/plateau outside Fethiye (can't for the life of me remember what it's called right at this moment),
Goltarla Lake ?
That's the one. Now, if you could just remind me what I went upstairs for a few minutes ago, that would be great. ;D