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« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2007, 22:27:41 PM »
It's best if it is local - as local as possible, as you're building up an immunity to pollen in the local area - one of the main culprits of allergies. Try a farmers market if you have one near as they are usually a good source. Ask around as you might find someone knows of a VERY local source.

There's loads of local honey available in Calis & Fethiye. The supermarkets here sometimes sell local - due to more demand now but often the honey sold could be from anywhere in the EU - look on the label.

We even managed to get some Australian honey from just outside Brisbane, Queensland in our local supermarket before we went to Aus so Carl took that for a couple of weeks before we went.

I'd also be tempted to bring some Calis/Fethiye honey back with you & start taking a week or more before you next visit. Honey is the one food that doesn't go off. It may crystallise but it doesn't go off.

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« Reply #51 on: February 22, 2007, 15:19:03 PM »
Thanks Linda, not much local honey in Manchester, will try one of the farm shops next time we go to Cheshire. Linda

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« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2007, 17:27:58 PM »
I just put in a search for Manchester Honey as when I lived in the area I'm sure my best friend used to go to Stockport market to buy local honey & found the following.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/5157916.stm

My friend Chris is nursing in Manchester at the present time & her daughter is a doctor, I nearly trained at Christie as a radiologist but decided against it, as the cases there were often so severe & distressing that I think I'd have ended up in tears most of the day. I will tell both about Bee Propalis & see if they can pass it on to Christie - the work they do there is wonderful. They'd probably not take it seriously if I told them.

Honey trialled on cancer patients
A Manchester cancer hospital is importing manuka honey from New Zealand to treat patients after surgery.
The honey is believed to have healing powers and doctors at Christie Hospital in Didsbury, Manchester, plan to use it on mouth and throat cancer patients.

They hope it may reduce the patients' chances of contracting MRSA and help lessen inflammation.

It has been used on special honey-coated dressings at the Manchester Royal Infirmary since May.

Now 60 patients at the hospital are taking part in a study to see if the honey can prevent infections which can be resistant to antibiotics.


Honey has been used as a medicine since the Ancient Egyptians, who regarded it as a cure all.

Dr Nick Slevin, the specialist leading the programme, said: "Manuka honey has special anti-inflammatory and anti-infection properties and is believed to reduce the likelihood of MRSA infection.

"This study has been generously funded by local people and patients - and we are extremely grateful to them."

The honey is produced by bees which mainly feed on the Manuka bush.

It can be expensive - up to £12 for a jar - but the hospital is buying in bulk to help keep costs down.

The hospital has so far imported 400kg of honey for the clinical trials.

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I've written to Christie Hospital as I really strongly believe in Bee Propalis. Read a few things now from Man Eve News & they are using Manuca Honey internally as well as in dressings as it seems to help cut down throat infections drastically - Propalis would do FAR better especially if they can find a Manuca Propalis - their suppliers probably make it or know who does. (Manuca Honey is supposed to be more beneficial than other honey - I wonder if it's because the bees visit the tea trees?)
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« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2007, 18:34:27 PM »
Thanks Linda, totally agree about Christies, my sister and my mum were both treated there for breast cancer ( my sister was only 30). It is a wonderful hospital and thankfully both doing fine. I am not sure I could work there either, it was always difficult at visiting time seeing the ones they sadly couldn't help especially the younger ones. I hope they act on your letter. Linda

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« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2007, 21:42:08 PM »
Interesting topic,  babies under a year old should not be given honey for the following reason---
It can contain a type of bacteria. If given to a baby under one year old, the bacteria can grow and produce toxins in the baby's intestine. This can result in a potentially dangerous illness called 'infantile botulism'. After the age of one, the baby's intestine matures so that the bacteria are not able to grow.

Makes me wonder if the same bacteria has the ability to heal.

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« Reply #55 on: February 22, 2007, 23:00:22 PM »
I don't think it's the bacteria Heather that heals. It probably shouldn't be given to babies under a year old because the Clostridium botulinum bacteria produces toxins which for a larger child or adult wouldn't be a problem but for a baby could overwhelm their system.
Maybe the toxins produced by the C. Bot. could also produce a response in the body which means that we produce antibodies or suchlike which also act on all bacteria helping to eliminate them. Then again it could be the toxins also which help to eliminate MRSA?? I don't know but it's an interesting thought.

If someone wants to provide me with a decent microscope, sterile lab facilities & some MRSA samples - when we get over to Calis I'd love to do some research on it as we often toss ideas around & I've got a lot of different things I'd like to try. I'd work for free if they'd just let me try some of the things going through my mind. Just heard this moment on TV 5,436 people died of MRSA last year - shocking, isn't it!

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« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2007, 07:58:33 AM »
Can you give me any more information on honey for cancer patients.
I recently cared for a guy who had bowel cancer.  In a wicked twist of fate one of our staff's wife has been diagnosed with the same condition.  Is this something I could recommend to someone undergoing chemotherapy treatment or would the lowered immune system make this dangerous.
Hope you get the chance to try some of the things going through your mind.  Most inventions and cures have started in that way.

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« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2007, 13:37:46 PM »
I've no idea Heather - really wish I did. My dad died of bowel cancer at just 50 & he suffered badly for over 10 years, which was the start of me looking at alternative therapies.

I don't think honey would harm an adult otherwise Christie wouldn't use but whether it would have any effects on the lower part of the intestines once it's been through the digestive process I honestly don't know. I suspect not, but then again it could help raise the immune system which is a good thing.

Can I suggest a book by Dr Hulda Regehr Clark - A Cure for All Cancers. I find some of her ideas a trifle off the wall BUT some make incredibly good sense. It's well worth a read. Amazon have it at just £20 - just a few years back the book cost hundreds or thousands of pounds & was incredibly hard to find - it was talked about often in the alternative therapy world but few people could afford to buy it.

Many doctors will say it's complete rubbish BUT we've heard of clinics worldwide that use some of her methods & have a very high cure rate. Sometimes we need to look 'outside the box.'

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« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2007, 14:30:58 PM »
i don't think there is going to be time to buy the book and find cures .  Also I don't think I have the knowledge to make decisions.  What I will do is speak to an excellent health store manager that we have here who will know.
If it is able to aid the immune system this could only be good.  The gent I cared for was doing so well and then contracted bronchitis.  He reacted badly to anti-biotics then everything went downhill from there.  It may be a shot in the dark but if it can help in any way at all I will let my friend know.  Thank you.

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« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2007, 15:58:08 PM »
Heather - I've sent you an email




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