Kaya Valley Demolitions

[laffa]

  Well said Dave.

[cef]

I think the 6,400 'alleged' illegal properties, are just the ones identified in Mugla......  Lord knows, how many actually exist in total, in Turkey

There have been so many Turkish property 'horror stories', I hope Turkey takes the initiative to correct this further injustice.

Well said Dave [^].  I've amended my previous post & removed my 'personal comments', my apologies to all  , it all gets a bit too much to bear, some times!!

[stoop]

quote:Originally posted by laffa

  Stoop, you know what i'm like on computers, (crap) if its not too much trouble could you sne the link to the Liverpool Echo, its not as local as you might think, and they do ask for stories to be sent in, especially with them doing a article about more people going to Turkey next year.

Consider it done Laffa

[susuz.1]

This is an extremely sad issue causing much stress and anguish and my sympathies go out to all those involved in this diabolical situation.

This is a long shot, but the Hanel Houses 5 year guarantee (on their website) states that should any part of the building develop a fault, this will be repaired free of charge.  I think that having no building permission is an extremely serious 'fault'. (If that is the case and there is no building permission).

The fact that the buildings appear to have a very serious 'fault' in that they should never have been built seems to me to be relevant.

Could it therefore be argued that HH should correct the 'fault' in accordance with their guarantee by either:

a)  Demolishing the 'faulty' buildings themselves
b)  Obtaining the building permissions (which they should have had in the first place)
c)  Rebuilding the properties (this would be the 'repair' on receipt of correct permissions
d)  If none of the above are possible giving a full refund to all the owners of the properties on the grounds that they have been unable to fulfil their warranty.

Same could be true for other developers who offer warranties on similar terms.  

My thoughts are all I have to offer - with best of luck

[albaman]

My understanding is that there was recently a 6 month ban on non-Turkish citizens buying property in Turkey & that the property market in Turkey has not really recovered from that time resulting in a current over supply of houses for sale.

How absolutely stupid is it then for the authorities to be making this threat of demolition?

Once this becomes common knowledge in the UK & the people in Turkey with a vote realise how damaging this threat is to the Turkish economy at a time when there is an emphasis on selling properties to ex-pats from the UK then, hopefully, the authorities will do the morally correct thing & punish those who built & sold the properties illegally & those who issued the TAPUs illegally.

It happened in Spain, the word on the street is that Turkey is now the destination of choice for retiring to & buying property. NOT if they are going to tear down people's houses!

So, no apoligies for repeating myself.......please contact the media & authorities to let them know that this is not tolerable behaviour.....I love Turkey & want to live there but we will need to reconsider pending the outcome of the demolition threat.

Dave

[marytheresa]

There are alot of houses/homes in Turkey referred to as gece kondo translated in english it means night house,many turks came into towns and cities for work etc they then found a piece of land and basically built a building over night and moved in,there are still thousands of them all over Turkey most of theses homes have no legal pape work at all in some cases the Turkish govenement have given ownership to the tenants in othe cases they rip them down! last year in gunlukbasi there were several gece kondo house down by the canal the tenants were asked to leave the poperties and then the powers that be put them up for sale at auction.
Personally I think fo the residents of kaya the best road to go down for now is with local and international press kaya does not need another incident shall we say it will not taste sweet in the tea of the officals.

[KKOB]

This thread appears to be developing into an anti-Hanel Houses campaign.

Whilst we're not their greatest fans, we'd like to point out that as far as we're aware, ours is the only house built in the Kaya Valley by Hanel Houses to be the subject of one of these notices.

[lindacarl]

KKOB - I think it's gone that way because you told us the property was built by Hanel - who ARE notorious for (let's face it!) building where they shouldn't & paying backhanders. They then lie & tell people they will get their Tapus, omitting to tell them that they won't get 'proper' tapus/habitation certificates as the properties shouldn't have been put there in the first place. They also omit telling people that possibly their ideally situated property might be bulldosed, if the powers that be, decide in the future that 'tourist land' should go back to having what was intended to be there in the first place - hotels or tourist atractions.

IF you bought off Hanel & they told you the build had permission & was legal then you should go after them. They have a responsibility to you & years back their sales people were telling people that they would buy back properties at the price they sold the properties for.

I know you don't want to lose your beautiful home - who would? BUT if Hanel mislead you then THEY should reimburse you OR sort it out!

[albaman]

quote:Originally posted by lindacarl

KKOB - I think it's gone that way because you told us the property was built by Hanel - who ARE notorious for (let's face it!) building where they shouldn't & paying backhanders. They then lie & tell people they will get their Tapus, omitting to tell them that they won't get 'proper' tapus/habitation certificates as the properties shouldn't have been put there in the first place. They also omit telling people that possibly their ideally situated property might be bulldosed, if the powers that be, decide in the future that 'tourist land' should go back to having what was intended to be there in the first place - hotels or tourist atractions.

IF you bought off Hanel & they told you the build had permission & was legal then you should go after them. They have a responsibility to you & years back their sales people were telling people that they would buy back properties at the price they sold the properties for.

I know you don't want to lose your beautiful home - who would? BUT if Hanel mislead you then THEY should reimburse you OR sort it out!

Well said Lindacarl!

I am obviously of the opinion that this issue needs to be sorted asap, the 5th January is only a few days away.

I had no knowledge of any building companies in Turkey but as soon as I started asking questions then Hanel came to the fore as a company known for building on land without legal permission. I also quickly learned about the politics of why this had happened.

I would therefore suggest that, as said above, Hanel should sort this mess out. I realise that there will likely be several companies involved but may I suggest that a two pronged attack is required? One jointly with the other owners affected channeled through the media, local & UK, plus the authorities at Ankara level. The other, a direct claim via a solicitor, against the company who built your house & presumably, who issued your TAPU.

I sincerely hope that this terrible situation gets sorted soon & that you can get back to "normal" living.

Dave

[KKOB]

Representatives from the village have been to Mugla today for a meeting. We'll have more information tomorrow.