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Offline barry44544

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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2010, 20:08:02 PM »
Call me an old cynic... But..paparazzi out numbered the so called protesters
who just happened to be outside the London Palladium
after A massive protest......and the bulk of students were trapped in Westminster.
And.. the Bars were open.
Scapegoats...


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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2010, 20:18:23 PM »
I support the students 100%,I believe their protest is a just one,but unfortunately once again the media highlights the scum bags,bear in mind the number of students on the marches who behave sensibly compared to number who do not.
Its refreshing to see a group of people who are not prepared to lie down and let the government steam roller them.
I mean lets be fair,its all very British is'nt it,peaceful demonstration,police mob handed,banging skulls,horse charges,they'll be bringing out the tanks next.
Yes,I support the students whole heartedly,nice to see a spark of life in the land of doom,gloom,and apathy.

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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2010, 20:29:13 PM »
It's a good job you don't live in France, Greece, Spain or god forbid Eastern Europe - the water cannon and the real riot police would have been out there (with tanks to follow) and we would have had a bloodbath.

Your point about "just a few" is decimated by student union officials justifying the "understandable anger" - total tosh  ;)


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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2010, 20:35:15 PM »
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Originally posted by Scunner

realise that this is achieving nothing - for anyone.

Maybe. A bit early to call I think. It has already possibly achieved (you could say there were other reasons I suppose, but I can't
think of any now) a number of concessions from this Govt - most importantly not only linking the incoming £21k threshold to inflation annually (instead of every five years) but also retrospectively applying this rule to current students (the  £15k limit). In the longer term it may well change policy for individuals and even government. Let's not forget that that the overthrow of Thatcher was certainly significantly influenced by the violent, politically condemned and "unacceptable" street protests against the Poll Tax. I'll spare you all the more historical examples of "disgraceful" violent protests that led to what we presently think of as our "rights". So, I can't go along with the negativity that this protest is doomed to achieve nothing. Even if it was I would still support it (I'm used to being on a losing side).
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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2010, 20:48:59 PM »
I also wonder, slightly off topic, whether this desperate concession in order to gain a bit of power for a change is in fact the final activity of the Liberals in British politics. Surely after this incredible and fundamental U-turn, they will never be voted for again in any meaningful numbers..?

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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2010, 20:53:41 PM »
I do'nt know Ian if your post was in reply to mine,so I care fully reread mine,and I can' find any reference to "just a few" so obviously it can't be.


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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2010, 21:10:47 PM »
GB - yes it was to you if the cap fits and to all of those who try to justify what has happened.
I believed the inference was intended to mean a few.

"I mean lets be fair,its all very British is'nt it,peaceful demonstration etc etc"

For London - think Istanbul or Beijing - for Churchill think Ataturk or Mao and imagine the outcome.

Yes - sadly I suspect the Liberals are finished but I have to say - we would likely be getting even harder medicine to swallow if it wasn't for the coalition  :)

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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2010, 21:17:00 PM »
Maybe so, but I do think that the British prefer a politician who preaches things we can't agree with but at least we can see they believe it themselves, than in people who stand for one thing and throw it away when the situation suits.

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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2010, 22:01:31 PM »
I support the students right to protest peacefully but working in Whitehall I have seen first hand how these protests have become increasingly more violent over the last three weeks and I certainly do not envy the police in the job they have to do. This week was by far the worst and most violent and the damage to a number of the Government buildings in Whitehall was unecessary and solved nothing.

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« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2010, 22:23:09 PM »
Everyone quite rightly has their own view and I wouldn't have it any other way. GB is a GREAT country and it annoys me when so many regularly "trash it". Coalition politics is new ground - it is unrealistic to expect either manifesto to be honoured.

But we are fortunate enough have a system in this country - called elections - and if you don't like what your Party or your MP did then vote him out at the next opportunity.

If you choose not to vote for a politician that breaks some of their party promises then you will not vote very many times!


However do not create or aid and abet mayhem and violence and expect to be able to freely abuse people and property at other people's expense because in the eyes of the law that makes you a criminal.

I am not going to post on this subect again as it is not good for my health - goodnight  ;)




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