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Offline sannyrut

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2011, 11:53:10 AM »
I too am disgusted at the recent events targeting people associated with Glasgow Celtic.Take it from me,you will never ever solve this problem.I was brought up in Motherwell which had three teams with local support.Motherwell,Celtic and Rangers.It amazed me when going to see my local team,the amount of either Celtic or Rangers fans passing through the town on coaches from the surrounding area,obviously going to Celtic or Rangers games.Why pass Fir Park.We weren't that bad a team,well sometimes.
Nowadays,I see babies in prams,and toddlers dressed in Celtic or Rangers tops.Babies!!!!!!The sectarianism starts in the home,then at school and no doubt with some preachers of hate on both sides.
I remeber when I was working in a Police Office,a colleague of mine,a Celtic supporter,was in a heated debate with a Rangers supporter.The Rangers supporter was complaining about the fact that Celtic supporters sang IRA songs,flew the Southern Irish flag and spat on the police patrolling the terraces at Celtic Park.The Celtic fan replied "You'se cannae talk,you sing God Save the Queen and wave a Union Jack"
Need I say any more other than ban the two teams from playing in Scottish Football.



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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2011, 14:49:34 PM »
Its terrible.  I am a Celtic fan and have friends from both sides. However, I have become appalled at some of the postings that my so called friends post on Feacebook. Both sides are equally bad

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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2011, 22:59:23 PM »
The Fields of Athenry was banned in our old local pub, and nobody was allowed to sing the Liverpool version, Fields of Anfield Road, I could never understand this, because I just thought it was a lovely song, apparently it was because of the religious side of things,yet you hear both versions sang in other pubs, friends who visited from Scotland said there is more than one version of the song, but not being religious I never delved any deeper into it.

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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2011, 23:35:58 PM »
Laffa, I must admit this is new to me. Being Irish, the only version that I know of is the one about stealing corn during the famine and being sent to botany Bay. I wonder if the reason that it is banned is because it is a nationalist song and thus associated with Catholics as where loyalists are associated with the Protestants. I do know that Liverpool supporters have the version you referred to.

There well maybe other versions but I have not heard of them

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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2011, 10:41:16 AM »
When you get a pub(near Ibrox) that has Celtic crests in the urinals, you sort of get the general level of hatred. At first I thought, quite funny, then the penny actually dropped. I lived i Glasgow for nearly 2 years,a long time ago now & abosolutely loved the place & the people, but the secterianism was a lot worse then as the trops were still in NI. Iv'e been to a few Old Firm games over the years & believe me,the way the fans behave now is like a nursery in comparison to what it used to be like.You always have a couple of nutters  who just have to go too far though. You can bet on one thing though. With all the publicity surrounding these incidents, these prats won't be bragging about it down the pub. Nobody wants it, and certainly nobody needs it. It gets all the Scots tarred with the same brush, which isn't fair at all.

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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2011, 11:12:49 AM »
Its so ingrained in some areas that people from outside these areas dont really understand it. My inlaws live just outside Wishaw and they cant really let people outside of their immediate neighbours know the team that they support. Someone I worked with when younger was thrown down a set of stairs when the daughter he was dating told her father that he supported Rangers.  There was no surprise with the Neil Lennon bombs as there have been threats of this for several months now and he has been under armed guard.

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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2011, 11:22:31 AM »
I stayed in Glasgow a few years ago and was shocked at this attitude.  Country bumpkin and the first time I came across it.  
I told my friends mother I didn't understand this attitude and they couldn't understand how as it was second nature to them.
Worst comment was when I took my two year old niece to visit and was told by friends mother that she was lovely....shame she was Catholic.

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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2011, 12:25:34 PM »
I saw on the Scottish news this morning there was a candle light  vigil for Neil Lennon last night outside the ground.  The first picture shown was the Celtic fans with a hugh tricolour (the flag of Eire) with Lennon's face in the middle.   Why?  A tricolour is not the Celtic Colours and Lennon is from N.Ireland.  Why not try and mend fences and just have an image of him in a flag with Celtic colours?  This sort of thing will just add fuel to the fire with the Rangers supporters.  Next thing we will have a Union Flag with Walter Smith's face!

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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2011, 13:29:25 PM »
I'm Glasgow born and bred and have never been a victim of secterianism or, know anyone who has.
Our family is of mixed religion, all of our neighbours are mixed, our friends are mixed, there is no one saying you can't live here if your Catholic or Protestant. I know there are places just outside of Glasgow where this is the case but, I can honestly say it's not something I've ever come across.
I couldn't care less if your Catholic, Protestant or Hindu and all of our friends are the same.
I've also had the pleasure of being the manager of a local pub in the East End of the city, not a stones throw from Celtic Park, again no secetarianism was tolerated.  Not just by me but the clientelle themselves. It's not wanted.
Most Glaswegians are just as disgusted by the behaviour of these thugs as everyone else. Religion has no place in football.
For any of you who've never had the pleasure of visiting The Dear Green Place then please don't allow any of this to put your off.  Glasgow is a vibrant, cosmipolitan, upbeat city which unfortunately is getting alot of press for all the wrong reasons at the moment.

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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2011, 16:11:53 PM »
As someone who was born and brought up in Glasgow ,i agree 100% with Anne,there are far less problems in Glasgow than in many parts of the country ,and i would also like to add my disgust  to this incident that any right thinking human being would.




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