Fur Coats

[Julesp]

quote:Originally posted by Julesp

quote:Originally posted by ronzeus

Jules has made me feel so guilty that i have got rid of my favourite Donkey jacket.  

Yes faux fur should also be banned because if you cannot tell the diference its rotten

Ok I will now post the video that the swiss anti fur trade has been  publising for ages  Faux Fur or Real Fur are all bad I dont support the arguement that fur is warmest for people because there are many synthetic substitutes. I do think fur is the best coat for the animal that grows it


Watch this if you can, and I am so surprised and disgusted that so many people on here supported Misha and Tom But feel its OK for the fur trade to continue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suTfGWpJeSo&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dchinese%2Bracconn%2Bdogs%26aq%3Df

And that has just made me feel sick again But maybe people will understand oneday how bad this trade is

[ribeye100]

Thanks for all the comments.

I hadn't ever thought that this would have been such a hot topic.

The coats are with the Red Cross now and I must say they were over the moon with them.

Just need to book our flights now for me & Jackie, and of course Oscar
all exciting times, sould be in Calis full time late November/early December   good times ahead  

All the best to you all
Mark

[Scunner]

So the upshot of all this caring about animals is that this topic caused the Red Cross in the UK will get the proceeds and good causes in Turkey missed out on money that could do so much. Great work "animal lovers"!

Best of luck Mark (and Jackie & Oscar) - I remember how exciting and scary this final period in the UK before setting off is.

[Jacqui Harvey]

On the other side of the coin after all the carry on in G.B. about mink farms, lots of animal rights people broke into the farms and let the minks go.  We now have a problem with wild minks who are being actively hunted and killed by local authorities.  The mink are responsible for killing so many of our native countryside animals including the water vole. I was speaking to a local man who has a trout farm and he told me he has a bad problem with mink. He said they are the most vicious animals and they attack for pleasure. He said they they will take a bite out of the back of a trout and just leave it to die a long lingering death.
I don't want a mink coat. I don't wear real fur, but I think if some of the Animal Right People had acted more responsibly minks would not now be a problem in our countryside.  It's ironic that they are now being hunted and killed anyway.

[ribeye100]

quote:Originally posted by Scunner

So the upshot of all this caring about animals is that this topic caused the Red Cross in the UK will get the proceeds and good causes in Turkey missed out on money that could do so much. Great work "animal lovers"!

Best of luck Mark (and Jackie & Oscar) - I remember how exciting and scary this final period in the UK before setting off is.

Cheers Keith for the good words, ironically the Red Cross have said that there is a great chance that some of these coats could end up in Turkey for the earthquake appeal.  

[peecee]

Jules I don't agree at all, synthetic products are NOT warm (unless you're prepared to wear 20 layers)  A skin or pelt is the warmest thing you can wear because the wind cannot get through it and, invariably, it does have some sort of fur. That's how the animals keep warm.
Are you saying that you don't approve of sheepskin? If so I really hope you don't eat lamb or mutton.  Even if you don't millions of people do and why waste the skins?  And, as someone pointed out, leather shoes/handbags etc.  They're a by product of people eating beef.
Please don't misunderstand me, I don't agree with breeding and killing animals for the pelts but I DO think the coats that are already around should be put to good use.
With regards to faux fur, that's made of synthetic materials so what's wrong with them[?]

[atinabay]

quote:Originally posted by Julesp

quote:Originally posted by ronzeus

Jules has made me feel so guilty that i have got rid of my favourite Donkey jacket.  

Yes faux fur should also be banned because if you cannot tell the diference its rotten

Ok I will now post the video that the swiss anti fur trade has been  publising for ages  Faux Fur or Real Fur are all bad I dont support the arguement that fur is warmest for people because there are many synthetic substitutes. I do think fur is the best coat for the animal that grows it


Watch this if you can, and I am so surprised and disgusted that so many people on here supported Misha and Tom But feel its OK for the fur trade to continue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suTfGWpJeSo&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dchinese%2Bracconn%2Bdogs%26aq%3Df

I feel that if an old fur coat is recirculated then at least the animal has made a useful contribution, especially if its used in a charitable manner.  Perhaps a bit of twisted dignity there?
They're old. Gone. Dead. If the fur can keep someone needy warm, then it compensates for the ones sold commercialy. Then at least the poor animal did not die in vain.

 I would hope that when I'm gone, some part of me can be used.

However !!!!!...... yes! In this day and age, it should stop.
Theres a difference between catching a fish, or (humanely killing a cow and eating it)  and skinning a perfectly healthy animal just to decorate someones shoulders, or because its the best way of keeping warm. (there are other ways).
Tried to watch the clip but had to stop half way.  As a chef I have skinned a few animals in my past but this is something else.  
Is there a reason why they couldnt at least make sure the animals are dead before they start skinning them?.... Horrible! Barbaric!

[BM06]

quote:Originally posted by Julesp

quote:Originally posted by ronzeus

Jules has made me feel so guilty that i have got rid of my favourite Donkey jacket.  

Yes faux fur should also be banned because if you cannot tell the diference its rotten

Ok I will now post the video that the swiss anti fur trade has been  publising for ages  Faux Fur or Real Fur are all bad I dont support the arguement that fur is warmest for people because there are many synthetic substitutes. I do think fur is the best coat for the animal that grows it


Watch this if you can, and I am so surprised and disgusted that so many people on here supported Misha and Tom But feel its OK for the fur trade to continue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suTfGWpJeSo&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dchinese%2Bracconn%2Bdogs%26aq%3Df

So will you be attending any of the Korban Byram celebrations (sic) that takes part this time of year, every year, Jules[?]

[mercury]

What has Julie attending Kurban Bayram celebrations got to do with the fur trade. This is a religious tradition and the meat will be eaten. A lot of it will go to poor families in the area. There is a collecting van going around Gunlukbasi and Calis who collects the furs.This is part of a charity run by Turkish Airlines. These are then re cycled to make warm clothing for the poor and the army in Turkey.  Julie is one of the kindest women I know. She works for FIG who everyone knows does a lot of good for disadvantage kids in this area and the outlying very poor areas. She has adopted pets from the Animal Sanctuary and is at the moment nursing a stray kitten off our complex. Does she need to be got at because she has strong views on The Fur Trade.??

[Highlander]

quote:Originally posted by mercury

 Does she need to be got at because she has strong views on The Fur Trade.??

NO !