Fur Coats

[scooby doo]

No. Its the barbaric way the animals are killed for bayram that i feel is so disturbing. but that seems to be ok. No matter who eats it or benefits from it. They could be more humane when they kill these animals, i think its awfull .

[Scunner]

Julie is not being "got at" in my opinion Anne. There is a discussion going on and she is arguing her case like everyone else who chose to make their opinions known. Discussion forum you see  

[BM06]

Anne, What has working for FIG, being kind, adopting a cat, got to do with the fur trade? I think you answered your own question in regarding Kurban bayram they kill an animal and eat it and use the fur for clothes to keep warm! we all know what Julie does, and I for one support her holehartedly  but that is not what the topic is about. Its about FUR.

[Jacqui Harvey]

Just looked up on Google what happens.. Apparently this is the festival of sacrifice, so a goat or sheep is bought and the family gather around whilst the animal has it's throat slit and the blood is drained into a hole in the ground. Sounds horrible.  If this not cruelty I don't know what is.

[ronzeus]

 :oHonest Jules ,my Donkey jacket wasnt from a real donkey.
 Actually i was trying to take some heat out of a very emotive discusion.

[Scunner]

And developed from a Calis topic into a general one so now I shall move it into the non-Turkey area.

[Julesp]

quote:Originally posted by BM06

quote:Originally posted by Julesp

quote:Originally posted by ronzeus

Jules has made me feel so guilty that i have got rid of my favourite Donkey jacket.  

Yes faux fur should also be banned because if you cannot tell the diference its rotten

Ok I will now post the video that the swiss anti fur trade has been  publising for ages  Faux Fur or Real Fur are all bad I dont support the arguement that fur is warmest for people because there are many synthetic substitutes. I do think fur is the best coat for the animal that grows it


Watch this if you can, and I am so surprised and disgusted that so many people on here supported Misha and Tom But feel its OK for the fur trade to continue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suTfGWpJeSo&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dchinese%2Bracconn%2Bdogs%26aq%3Df

So will you be attending any of the Korban Byram celebrations (sic) that takes part this time of year, every year, Jules[?]

My lifestyle now with my turkish partner who is too educated and european to follow the custom means that I dont see or take part in the Bayram slaughter celebrations

But when I first came to live here my neighbours all slaughtered goats for Bayram, I respect that, they have a feast of meat they cannot usually afford and its a special day like Christmas for Christians, the local council collect the pelts for the poor to keep warm, I have no arguement with people selling leather and goat and sheepskin to keep warm, but that isnt classed as fur!

Fur is taken from animals that you wouldnt normally eat Cats Dogs Minks Lions Tigers Whatever,it isnt a by product from food

[mercury]

Yes it is about Fur. I couldnt see what Kurban Bayram and wearing leather shoes etc. had to do with the Fur Trade. No you are right that working for kids etc. has nothing to do with the topic.

[Julesp]

quote:Originally posted by peecee

Jules I don't agree at all, synthetic products are NOT warm (unless you're prepared to wear 20 layers)  A skin or pelt is the warmest thing you can wear because the wind cannot get through it and, invariably, it does have some sort of fur. That's how the animals keep warm.
Are you saying that you don't approve of sheepskin? If so I really hope you don't eat lamb or mutton.  Even if you don't millions of people do and why waste the skins?  And, as someone pointed out, leather shoes/handbags etc.  They're a by product of people eating beef.
Please don't misunderstand me, I don't agree with breeding and killing animals for the pelts but I DO think the coats that are already around should be put to good use.
With regards to faux fur, that's made of synthetic materials so what's wrong with them[?]



I have no problems with leather etc A by Product of meat, I am against killing animals just for the fur, Watch the video!! Faux Fur leads to fashion where real fur becomes more acceptable, look at Ugg Boots!

[Julesp]

quote:Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey

Just looked up on Google what happens.. Apparently this is the festival of sacrifice, so a goat or sheep is bought and the family gather around whilst the animal has it's throat slit and the blood is drained into a hole in the ground. Sounds horrible.  If this not cruelty I don't know what is.

Its not cruel at all, They are killed much more humanely than in an abbotoir in the UK, Usually the family will stand around calming and speaking to the animal, the kids will stroke it, then they slit its neck very quickly and hold it for the few seconds it takes to die
Much more humane than the turkeys in the Uk are Killed for everyones Xmas dinner


And by the way My reply to the original Topic was Yes Sell the Old Fur to E bay. Just dont promote Fur as trendy Modern whatever, Watch where you buy those UGGs and other fur from, Faux or not !!