Medical insurance

[Sus]

quote:Originally posted by Chinook

Agree Highlander which is why I said that the money came from a big pot.

Come on you said it had nothing to do with the NIC it was funded by tax.

I said the NIC payments funded NHS, unemployment benefit,sickness and disability and the state pension

 :)Please have the decency to admit when you are wrong or say OK we were both right up to a point

[Sus]

quote:Originally posted by Highlander

I confess to not knowing of the regulations cited by Eric.

Presumably however those who have chosen to live abroad have been and are aware of these regulations.

Thank you Eric for you post.

Yes, I am classed as a "UK Resident" because I live and work abroad but not as a "Ordinarily resident"

A "UK Resident" has no claim on free use NHS or benefits after they have been out of the country for three months may be six months now not sure if it has changed yet and also have no right to vote.

Under the current Regulations, certain people who have lived in the UK who are currently working overseas are still entitled to free National Health Service (NHS) hospital treatment in England.  The following groups of people would be fully exempt from charges for NHS hospital treatment in England:

Anyone who at some point has lived lawfully in the UK for ten continuous years and is working abroad for a period of not more than five years

Please note it states Working not Living and enjoying your Life outside the UK.

An "Ordinarily resident" is a common law concept interpreted by the House of Lords in 1982 as someone who is living lawfully in the United Kingdom voluntarily and for settled purposes as part of the regular order of their life for the time being, with an identifiable purpose for their residence here which has a sufficient degree of continuity to be properly described as settled.

Therefore none of us who live full time in Turkey have any claim against the UK for Health or benefits.

So it all boils down to that I have got a UK Passport and a UK State Pension as I paid my NIC all the time while abroad, but that is the only thing I am still entitled to, which I think is really good that I have both of them still.

This is also a good read for UK Pensioners living abroad.

http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Healthcare/Entitlementsandcharges/OverseasVisitors/Browsable/DH_128863

[March girl]

I contacted the Embassy yesterday and they told me to hold fire until thursday as there was another meeting in Ankara to discuss other details such as pre=existing conditions for people in Bagkur etc.

[kevman]

Been this morning in all the rain. 6th in queue. Handed over all paperwork,it was duly checked and I was told you will receive a letter in February or March.10 mins altogether.

[Chinook]

Sus
NIC does not specifically fund the National Health as you keep saying nor ,and this is my point, does paying it , entitle you to any specific national health benefits, as they  are free if you qualify, unlike the other benefits that you enjoined it too which are only available if you make NIC payments. SO often you hear people saying words to the effect " I paid my NI so I am entitled to go back and have treatment under the NHS"; the post that I responded too referred to for periods of 37 and 40 years. They are not unless it was a pre-existing condition before they chose to live outside the UK.I know someone who has had hip replacement under the NHS,the need for which arose after he chose to live full time in Turkey ,and for which he returned to the UK when appointments were made and operations carried out. He cannot see that what he has done is fraud as in his words he has "paid his stamp"; and the reason he did it - he does not have medical insurance in Turkey.

[wreckdiver501]

Don't know if this helps, but its worth reading. I think that the British way of lets panic now and sort it out later, is all too abundant.
http://ukinturkey.fco.gov.uk/en/help-for-british-nationals/
British nationals who have lived in Turkey for one year will receive a letter about joining the scheme and then have one month to register.  

[Sus]

quote:Originally posted by Chinook

Sus
NIC does not specifically fund the National Health as you keep saying nor ,and this is my point, does paying it , entitle you to any specific national health benefits, as they  are free if you qualify, unlike the other benefits that you enjoined it too which are only available if you make NIC payments. SO often you hear people saying words to the effect " I paid my NI so I am entitled to go back and have treatment under the NHS"; the post that I responded too referred to for periods of 37 and 40 years. They are not unless it was a pre-existing condition before they chose to live outside the UK.I know someone who has had hip replacement under the NHS,the need for which arose after he chose to live full time in Turkey ,and for which he returned to the UK when appointments were made and operations carried out. He cannot see that what he has done is fraud as in his words he has "paid his stamp"; and the reason he did it - he does not have medical insurance in Turkey.

Please please please, OK OK OK my lord and master you are right, if that will make you happy.

But I did not say that the NIC specifically funded the NHS I said something along the lines that it helps to fund the NHS, benefit, sickness pay and state pension.

Please if you want to be right be so,I do not mind at all.

I agree with you on the hip replacement yes it is fraud but if they want to have it done then it is up to the individual and the UK Government to sort out and stop it happening.

[Pauline Smy]

This may have been covered already.  But i have just registered and it was very easy, in and out in a few minutes.  There is a form pinned up on the notice board there to assist you in filling in your form.  Some people had to leave and get correct documentation, so please take the original translation of your marriage certicicate and kimlik number.  You also need to write your telephone number on the form.  A copy of your passport and residency. You do not need a ticket, just join the queue for the foreigners section which is a small office on the right as you go in the door.

[Ian]

How many 90 day breaks can you take out of the UK in a year or a 3 year or a 5 year period.

I am sure I read somewhere that people who took a "year out" to travel were covered by doing a calculation over a number of years?

[saoirse]

Ian.  I believe if you are ordinarily resident in UK you can go abroad for up to 6 months. Here is a link.

http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Healthcare/Entitlementsandcharges/OverseasVisitors/Browsable/DH_074374