And for the record you state "We bought from Hanel and as far as I'm concerned I'd like to never see that name again" - but you joined CBF almost exactly FOUR YEARS ago and didn't say a word about them till this morning - you didn't even offer your opinion in the topic you yourself quoted half an hour ago. In the four years you have been an active member, a fair number of people have asked for opinions on buying from Hanel but you didn't offer any on any such occasion. I'd say that makes you living proof that my point is correct?