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Offline quackers

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Re: Email complaints re guns etc
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 05:32:49 AM »
Well said Tinks. I hate guns of any sort and I used to be a clay pıgeon shooter.



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Re: Email complaints re guns etc
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2013, 08:21:47 AM »
Statistics taken from citizens report


England and Wales


2000/1
847
(of which 72 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2001/2
854
(of which 96 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2002/3
1041
(of which 80 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2003/4
852
(of which 68 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2004/5
834
(of which 76 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2005/6
764
(of which 49 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2006/7
749
(of which 56 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2007/8
772
(of which 53 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2008/9
668
(of which 39 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2009/10
626
(of which 39 were caused by a gun / firearm)
20010/11
648
(of which 58 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2011
577
2011/12
550
(of which 39 were caused by a gun / firearm)

Scotland





2001/2
115
(of which 5 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2002/3
125
(of which 3 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2003/4
109
(of which 2 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2004/5
137
(of which 8 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2005/6
94
(of which 8 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2006/7
119
(of which 8 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2007/8
115
(of which 4 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2008/9
99
(of which 2 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2009/10
82
(of which 2 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2010/11
101
(of which 2 were caused by a gun / firearm)
2011/12
90
(of which 5 were caused by a gun / firearm)
No excuses.


Buying sub-machine guns or bazookas deactivated, and of course there is not one person out there in the UK that is not capable of doing the required work to re-activate them.  A few years back in Turkey Gordon was offered a deactivated gun, he was told of a place in the Sania to take it too and they would do the work for him for 100TL, I was horrified, thus he didn't get the gun. 

As for the obtaining a licence for a gun in the UK it may appear to be difficult, however, as many have been given to murderers who have later been deemed 'unstable' speaks volumes in the justice laws for obtaining said licence. 

Thankfully UK is not (yet) like the USA, and hopefully never will be, but do we need the open advertising and glamorising  of such material in the media or social networks.

An analogy of a woman in the back of a Tofas does not even equate in this discussion unless of course she was in the UK and had a gun and was going to murder someone.




Offline Marggie

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Re: Email complaints re guns etc
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2013, 10:55:01 AM »
This taken from the Fethiye Times.  Good to see children being warned about the dangers of guns.

Children Urged to "Bring a Gun, Take a Book"
Central Fethiye

A worthy exercise was held at the Fethiye Cultural Centre last week when local children were urged to “Bring a gun, take a book”.

The aim is to teach children that guns are dangerous items, and playing with toy guns, coupled with gun-related violence portrayed in films, TV and computer games, can make guns seem just normal objects rather than things which can, and do, kill.

Kids who surrendered their toy guns at the Centre could choose a book to take home instead of the toy.

The report did not contain any indication of the number of children who took part.

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Email complaints re guns etc
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2013, 12:41:18 PM »
The argument that all guns should be banned because someone has been shot with a legally held firearm doesn't really hold . as most shootings are with illegal guns and they will be available anyway there are far more killing with knives are we going to ban them as well

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Re: Email complaints re guns etc
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2013, 13:43:51 PM »
Well, as it’s already illegal to carry a knife longer than 3” (eg Swiss Army Knife) in public without good reason then I guess that’s already pretty much happened.

There are more suicides than murders with guns both here and in the US.  More to the point though, there are thousands of accidental deaths with registered guns in private households.  Just last week a 2 year old girl was killed in the States by her 5 year old brother with his fully working toy gun.  His mother had ‘forgotten’ there was ‘still’ a bullet in it.  And most of the big massacres that have happened worldwide were carried out using perfectly legal, registered guns. 

As for the illegal guns, there are so many guns sloshing around these days it probably wouldn’t take very much effort to find a source for one if you were so inclined.  Making them less plentiful sounds like a great idea to me.





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