Turkish ministers' sons arrested

[JohnF]

Yes it is... maybe we do have an Evren or a Bir sitting, watching, waiting... 

Its becoming like a bar fight between Erdogan and Gülen - lets just hope that, politically, there is someone to pick up the pieces irrespective of who wins as the prospect of either gaining total control (again!) is quite scary.

JF

[kevin3]

It's a non-threatening threat that may have both camps reflecting on the wisdom of their actions to date.

It's what it doesn't say that is the most powerful part.

Thanks John.

[Colwyn]

"The TSK is absolutely committed to law, democracy and the TSK. Beyond that we make no promises."

[Ian]

The best "face saving" compromise is for Erdogan to stand down and Gul to step up - or would he rather let his whole party fall on this sword

PS do it soon please before our savings dilute further

[JohnF]

The best "face saving" compromise is for Erdogan to stand down and Gul to step up

Constitutionally, I don't think that's possible - although stand to be corrected if someone knows more.

JF

[usedbustickets]

Careful what you wish for, a replacement for RTE could just as easily be worse.  Hard to believe, but very possible.

[Ian]

I accept the process would not be as simple as a "handover".

This was published in July - and towards the end of the article references are made to Gul being a "more democratic option" - I think he is waiting in the wings (as long as he is not tarnished?) - a bit like Brown waiting for Blair to go - but clearly a much more damaging scenario.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/07/gul-alternative-erdogan.html#

Sadly it may not be a controlled party led transfer until things have got much worse?

[GordonA]

So, Abdullah Gul could turn out to be the much needed 'dog in the manger' ??

[Ian]

So, Abdullah Gul could turn out to be the much needed 'dog in the manger' ??

Very appropriate at Christmas

[kevin3]

From what i've read about Gul he's just a quieter version of RTE with a similar record, and not a very nice one.