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Offline JohnF

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Re: Lira
« Reply #180 on: January 25, 2014, 17:48:23 PM »
Quite a contrast with Brits moving to Turkey, many of whom seem enthusiastic about plunging their £s into TL account to get their hands on the "large" interest rates - although not so large when you take inflation into account.

Yeah, this is an oft debated topic up north in the 'Bul.
 
A good few of our friends have been there a long time, from way before the mass exodus from the UK and Scandinavian countries to buy up Mugla, Aydin and Antalya.  They can remember, as can my missus, when a loaf could double in price between asking for it and paying for it.  This historical distrust, along with the Turks natural distrust, of the lira has been tempered slightly over the past few years when there was a certain stability in the economy (and of course, the lira). 

However, this has not been sufficient for them to plunge large volumes of hard currency into high interest lira accounts - that's not to say no-one does, just that they are careful with their exposure.  No one I know has had any serious amount of money in lira for nearly a year (some might, but they ain't admitting it!).  They also simply cant understand the logic whereby someone sells up in the UK, puts significant wedge into high interest lira account then lives off the interest (supplemented possibly by UK pension) - and to be honest, I don't either.  When you factor in inflation, especially in some significant sectors, the net gain after tax isn't quite so attractive.

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« Reply #181 on: January 26, 2014, 22:03:12 PM »
we just spent the weekened with our turkish friends (unfortunatly in england!) hes convinced that it will come back down again, im still not so sure, and will be withdrawing as my bonds finish, 1 is in the next few days, 1 in march, but 1 in september which is th one im really worried about

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« Reply #182 on: January 27, 2014, 01:27:57 AM »
You live in Folkstone, why did you buy so much lira - just curious.

If its a serious wedge then maybe the long game is worth a punt...  and I do mean a punt.  If I'd serious money in lira then I'd think twice/ thrice about pulling it out. Not sure what I'd eventually decide, but wouldn't be swayed by the ramblings of various punters on an online forum (and I include myself in that).

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Re: Lira
« Reply #183 on: January 27, 2014, 08:44:51 AM »
hi John

we bought in Lira either to gather interest return to GBP and use for investment in England, or long term use in Turkey

i find the advice and "ramblings!" on here extremely useful, and thank you all for them, there are many people on here more experienced with the workings of turkeys political and monetary systems than i am, maybe thats why ive bought so much Lira?

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Re: Lira
« Reply #184 on: January 27, 2014, 09:35:33 AM »
3.92 just now, It's not getting any stringer,

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« Reply #185 on: January 27, 2014, 09:38:30 AM »
I don't know when CBank was hoping that Additional Monetary tightening would kick in, but it sure ain't happening yet. It is currently through 3.92. That is beyond my end-April bet for the charity game (3.89). That's 2% down against the £.


Sorry Rimms - same time as yours.

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Re: Lira
« Reply #186 on: January 27, 2014, 09:42:39 AM »
3.92 and rising, be 4.00  by February I think.  :)

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« Reply #187 on: January 27, 2014, 10:15:55 AM »
If you've got your pot in Lira, are feeling somewhat bruised and are into Schadenfreude then here's a crumb of comfort. Stock exchanges in London and other European capitals have lost 3.5% of value since Friday morning and New York will probably join them when its markets open this afternoon. One of the main reasons for this is reported to be worries over the financial instability of emerging countries - of which Turkey and its tumbling Lira stands in first place. So that has knocked several hundred quid off my stocks & shares ISAs. Boo-hoo.

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« Reply #188 on: January 27, 2014, 10:36:59 AM »
It's always going to be a worry when you have changed your money over to a different currency because you inevitably follow the exchange rate, just in case you ever need to change it back. I think most people who have come to live here will have taken the long term view and hope that this economy which only 9 months ago was being described as a 'Tiger Economy' and one of the five most strongly emerging markets on the planet, yet here we are, following a number of political problems and looming elections with the currency in seeming free fall.

In the 1930s your pound bought you more than 5$ and at a point in the 1980s you could hardly get more than 1$. 

Can a  Country and it's whole economy become a basket case in less than a year? I hope not but we will see.

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« Reply #189 on: January 27, 2014, 10:49:54 AM »
Can a  Country and it's whole economy become a basket case in less than a year?
It happened to all the countries in North America and the EU in 2008. It depends on what the economy is built. Are Turkey's economic foundations secure? Or is its impressive growth based on unsustainable personal credit and international debt - i.e. borrowing from the future and from others countries? A different topic maybe.




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