To CLR and Gordon,I did not appreciate your replies to my post but hey ho you are entitled to your opinion as I to mine.No where in my post did I say I didNOT like the new marina but 'overkill' does seem to be a Turkish trait.I did not imply this negatively in fact I find it quite endearing.What I didnt find endearing was being told to b****r off back to where I came from.I found this remark very ignorant.........and that's my rant over!!!!!